Joshua Harlow wrote: > Thierry Carrez wrote: >> The PTG has always been about taking the team discussions that happened >> at the Ops Summit / Design Summit to have them in a more productive >> environment. > > I am just going to say it but can we *please* stop distinguishing > between ops and devs (a ops summit, like why); the fact that these > emails even continue to have the word op or dev or ops communicate with > devs and then devs go do something that may work (hint this kind of > feedback loop is wrong) for ops pisses me off. The world has moved > beyond this kind of separation and openstack needs to as well... IMHO > projects that still rely on this kind of interaction are dead in the > water. If you aren't as a developer at least trying to operate even a > small openstack cloud (even a personal one) then you really shouldn't be > continuing as a developer in openstack...
I totally agree with you. Did you read my email until the end ? See: >> [...] >> Oh, and in the above paragraphs, I'm not distinguishing "devs" from >> "ops". This applies to all teams, to any contributor engaged in making >> OpenStack a reality. Having the Public Cloud WG team meet at the PTG was >> great, and we should definitely have ANY OpenStack team wanting to meet >> and get things done at future PTGs. My mention above of "Ops Summit" / "Design Summit" was pointing to the old names of the events, which "Forum" and "PTG" were specifically designed to replace, avoiding the unnecessary split. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev