Tommy,

I am still not sure that this is going to move the team to a different decision.

Now that you have more information you can propose it as a topic in tomorrow's team meeting if you wish.

Jay


On 3/20/2018 8:54 PM, TommyLike Hu wrote:

Thanks Jay,
    The question is AWS doesn't have the concept of backup and their snapshot is incremental backup internally and will be finllay stored into S3 which is more sound like backup for us. Our snapshot can not be used across AZ.

Jay S Bryant <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>于2018年3月21日周三 上午4:13写道:



    On 3/19/2018 10:55 PM, TommyLike Hu wrote:
    Now Cinder can transfer volume (with or without snapshots) to
    different projects,  and this make it possbile to transfer data
    across tenant via volume or image. Recently we had a conversation
    with our customer from Germany, they mentioned they are more
    pleased if we can support transfer data accross tenant via backup
    not image or volume, and these below are some of their concerns:

    1. There is a use case that they would like to deploy their
    develop/test/product systems in the same region but within
    different tenants, so they have the requirment to share/transfer
    data across tenants.

    2. Users are more willing to use backups to secure/store their
    volume data since backup feature is more advanced in product
    openstack version (incremental backups/periodic backups/etc.).

    3. Volume transfer is not a valid option as it's in AZ and it's a
    complicated process if we would like to share the data to
    multiple projects (keep copy in all the tenants).

    4. Most of the users would like to use image for bootable volume
    only and share volume data via image means the users have to
    maintain lots of image copies when volume backup changed as well
    as the whole system needs to differentiate bootable images and
    none bootable images, most important, we can not restore volume
    data via image now.

    5. The easiest way for this seems to support sharing backup to
    different projects, the owner project have the full authority
    while shared projects only can view/read the backups.

    6. AWS has the similar concept, share snapshot. We can share it
    by modify the snapshot's create volume permissions [1].

    Looking forward to any like or dislike or suggestion on this idea
    accroding to my feature proposal experience:)


    Thanks
    TommyLike


    [1]:
    
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ebs-modifying-snapshot-permissions.html


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    Tommy,

    As discussed at the PTG, this still sounds like improper usage of
    Backup.  Happy to hear input from others but I am having trouble
    getting my head around it.

    The idea of sharing a snapshot, as you mention AWS supports sounds
    like it could be a more sensible approach.  Why are you not
    proposing that?

    Jay

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