big +1 to Graham's suggestion On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Graham Hayes <g...@ham.ie> wrote:
> On 18/04/18 11:38, Chris Dent wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > >> So... Is there any specific topic you think we should cover in that > >> meeting ? > > > > The topics: > > > > 1. What are we to do, as a community, when external pressures for > > results are not matched by contribution of resources to produce > > those results? There are probably several examples of this, but one > > that I'm particularly familiar with is the drive to be able to > > satisfy complex hardware topologies demanded by virtual network > > functions and related NFV use cases. Within nova, and I suspect other > > projects, there is intense pressure to make progress and intense > > effort that is removing resources from other areas. But the amount > > of daily, visible contribution from the interest companies [1] is > > _sometimes_ limited. There are many factors in this, and obviously > > "throw more people at it" is not a silver bullet, but there are > > things to talk about here that need the input from all the segments. > > > > 2. We've made progress of late with acknowledging the concepts > > and importance of casual contribution and "drive-by bug fixing" in > > our changing environment. But we've not yet made enough progress in > > changing the way we do work. Corporate foundation members need to be > > more aware and more accepting that the people they provide to work > > "mostly upstream" need to be focused on making other people capable > > of contribution. Not on getting features done. And those of us who > > do have the privilege of being "mostly upstream" need to adjust our > > priorities. > > > > Somewhere in that screed are, I think, some things worth talking > > about, but they need to be distilled out. > > > > [1] http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/5g-open-source-att/ > > > I think as an add on to this, would to ask the board to talk to members > and see what contributions they have made to the technical side of > OpenStack. > > This should not just be Number of commits / reviews / bugs etc but > also the motivation for the work, e.g. - Feature for a product, bug fix > found in a product, cross project work or upstream project maintenance. > > I don't necessarily want to shame corporate members of the foundation, > but I think it is important to understand where our contributor base > comes from, and what each member brings to the community table. > > We should also ask the board to try and formulate a plan for growing > new cross project leaders (not just TC / PTLs). We need to grow more > technical contributors in the horizontal teams, which requires more > than assigning a contributor to the QA / Infra / Olso / Docs teams > for a year or so - the people should be allowed a certain amount > of stability in a role, while not necessarily driving business goals. > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject: > unsubscribe > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > -- Zhipeng (Howard) Huang Standard Engineer IT Standard & Patent/IT Product Line Huawei Technologies Co,. Ltd Email: huangzhip...@huawei.com Office: Huawei Industrial Base, Longgang, Shenzhen (Previous) Research Assistant Mobile Ad-Hoc Network Lab, Calit2 University of California, Irvine Email: zhipe...@uci.edu Office: Calit2 Building Room 2402 OpenStack, OPNFV, OpenDaylight, OpenCompute Aficionado
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