Zane Bitter wrote:
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And I'm not convinced that's an either/or choice...

I said specifically that it's an either/or/and choice.

I was speaking more about the "we need to pick between two approaches, let's document them" that the technical vision exercise started as. Basically I mean I'm missing clear examples of where pursuing AWS would mean breaking vCenter.

So it's not a binary choice but it's very much a ternary choice IMHO. The middle ground, where each project - or even each individual contributor within a project - picks an option independently and proceeds on the implicit assumption that everyone else chose the same option (although - spoiler alert - they didn't)... that's not a good place to be.

Right, so I think I'm leaning for an "and" choice.

Basically OpenStack wants to be an AWS, but ended up being used a lot as a vCenter (for multiple reasons, including the limited success of US-based public cloud offerings in 2011-2016). IMHO we should continue to target an AWS, while doing our best to not break those who use it as a vCenter. Would explicitly acknowledging that (we still want to do an AWS, but we need to care about our vCenter users) get us the alignment you seek ?

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Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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