On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:17:36 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote:


On 08/01/2018 11:23 AM, Chris Friesen wrote:
On 08/01/2018 09:58 AM, Andrey Volkov wrote:
Hi,

It seems you need first to check what placement knows about resources
of your cloud.
This can be done either with REST API [1] or with osc-placement [2].
For osc-placement you could use:

pip install osc-placement
openstack allocation candidate list --resource DISK_GB=20 --resource
MEMORY_MB=2048 --resource VCPU=1 --os-placement-api-version 1.10

And you can explore placement state with other commands like openstack
resource
provider list, resource provider inventory list, resource provider
usage show.


Unfortunately this doesn't help figure out what the missing resources
were *at the time of the failure*.

The fact that there is no real way to get the equivalent of the old
detailed scheduler logs is a known shortcoming in placement, and will
become more of a problem if/when we move more complicated things like
CPU pinning, hugepages, and NUMA-awareness into placement.

The problem is that getting useful logs out of placement would require
significant development work.

Yeah, in my case I only had one compute node so it was obvious what the
problem was, but if I had a scheduling failure on a busy cloud with
hundreds of nodes I don't see how you would ever track it down.  Maybe
we need to have a discussion with operators about how often they do
post-mortem debugging of this sort of thing?

I think it's definitely a significant issue that troubleshooting "No allocation candidates returned" from placement is so difficult. However, it's not straightforward to log detail in placement when the request for allocation candidates is essentially "SELECT * FROM nodes WHERE cpu usage < needed and disk usage < needed and memory usage < needed" and the result is returned from the API.

I think better logging is something we want to have, so if anyone has ideas around it, do share them.

-melanie




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