+1 I've never understood this either personally. >From what I know most all (correct me if I am wrong) open source projects don't translate log messages; so it seems odd to be the special snowflake project/s.
Do people find this type of translation useful? It'd be nice to know how many people really do so the benefit/drawbacks of doing it can be evaluated by real usage data. -Josh On 1/27/14, 9:58 AM, "Daniel P. Berrange" <berra...@redhat.com> wrote: >On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:42:28PM -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> We have a blueprint open for separating translated log messages into >> different domains so the translation team can prioritize them >>differently >> (focusing on errors and warnings before debug messages, for example) >>[1]. > >> Feedback? > >> [1] >> >>https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/log-messages-translation-doma >>in > >IMHO we've created ourselves a problem we don't need to have in the first >place by trying to translate every single log message. It causes pain for >developers & vendors because debug logs from users can in any language >which the person receiving will often not be able to understand. It >creates >pain for translators by giving them an insane amount of work todo, which >never ends since log message text is changed so often. Now we're creating >yet more pain & complexity by trying to produce multiple log domains to >solve >a problem of havin some many msgs to translate. I accept that some people >will >like translated log messages, but I don't think this is a net win when you >look at the overall burden they're imposing. > >Shouldn't we just say no to this burden and remove translation of all log >messages, except for those at WARN/ERROR level which is likely to be seen >by administrators in a day-to-day basis. There's few enough of those that >we wouldn't need these extra translation domains. IMHO translating stuff >at DEBUG/INFO level is a waste of limited time & resources. > >Regards, >Daniel >-- >|: http://berrange.com -o- >http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| >|: http://libvirt.org -o- >http://virt-manager.org :| >|: http://autobuild.org -o- >http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| >|: http://entangle-photo.org -o- >http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :| > >_______________________________________________ >OpenStack-dev mailing list >OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
