You mean between what can be done as part of creating a VM vs what can be done 
to modify a VM after creation?

Consistency seems generally a positive thing, although from a GUI perspective 
there might be an argument to be made against making the GUI too confusing for 
simple tasks in order to allow for complicated/unusual special cases.

But with regard to attaching multiple vNICs to the same network we do need to 
be careful to protect the network from tenant mistakes. Does OpenvSwitch have a 
concept of BPDU guard and other related features to prevent a dual attached VM 
from looping the network?

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From: shihanzhang [mailto:ayshihanzh...@126.com]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 21:06
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova]Why not allow to create a vm directly with 
two VIF in the same network



Hi Paul:
  I am very glad to do the thing that puts together the practical use cases in 
which the same VM would benefit from multiple virtual connections to the same 
network, whatever it takes, I think we should at least guarantee the 
consistency of creating vms with nics and attaching nics.


在 2014-01-24 22:33:36,"CARVER, PAUL" <pc2...@att.com<mailto:pc2...@att.com>> 写道:

I agree that I’d like to see a set of use cases for this. This is the second 
time in as many days that I’ve heard about a desire to have such a thing but I 
still don’t think I understand any use cases adequately.

In the physical world it makes perfect sense, LACP, MLT, 
Etherchannel/Portchannel, etc. In the virtual world I need to see a detailed 
description of one or more use cases.

Shihanzhang, why don’t you start up an Etherpad or something and start putting 
together a list of one or more practical use cases in which the same VM would 
benefit from multiple virtual connections to the same network. If it really 
makes sense we ought to be able to clearly describe it.

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From: Day, Phil [mailto:philip....@hp.com<mailto:philip....@hp.com>]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 09:11
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova]Why not allow to create a vm directly with 
two VIF in the same network

I agree its oddly inconsistent (you’ll get used to that over time ;-)  - but to 
me it feels more like the validation is missing on the attach that that the 
create should allow two VIFs on the same network.   Since these are both 
virtualised (i.e share the same bandwidth, don’t provide any additional 
resilience, etc) I’m curious about why you’d want two VIFs in this 
configuration ?

From: shihanzhang [mailto:ayshihanzh...@126.com]
Sent: 24 January 2014 03:22
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>
Subject: [openstack-dev] [nova]Why not allow to create a vm directly with two 
VIF in the same network

I am a beginer of nova, there is a problem which has confused me, in the latest 
version, it not allowed to create a vm directly with two VIF in the same 
network, but allowed to add a VIF that it network is same with a existed 
VIF'network, there is the use case that a vm with two VIF in the same network, 
but why not allow to create the vm directly with two VIF in the same network?


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