Thanks Sylvain and Tim for the great sharing. @Tim, I also go through with Congress and have the same feeling with Sylvai, it is likely that Congress is doing something simliar with Gantt providing a holistic way for deploying. What I want to do is to provide some functions which is very similar with VMWare DRS that can do some adaptive scheduling automatically.
@Sylvain, can you please show more detail for what "Pets vs. Cattles analogy" means? 2014-02-26 9:11 GMT+08:00 Sylvain Bauza <[email protected]>: > Hi Tim, > > As per I'm reading your design document, it sounds more likely related to > something like Solver Scheduler subteam is trying to focus on, ie. > intelligent agnostic resources placement on an holistic way [1] > IIRC, Jay is more likely talking about adaptive scheduling decisions based > on feedback with potential counter-measures that can be done for decreasing > load and preserving QoS of nodes. > > That said, maybe I'm wrong ? > > [1]https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler > > > 2014-02-26 1:09 GMT+01:00 Tim Hinrichs <[email protected]>: > > Hi Jay, >> >> The Congress project aims to handle something similar to your use cases. >> I just sent a note to the ML with a Congress status update with the tag >> [Congress]. It includes links to our design docs. Let me know if you have >> trouble finding it or want to follow up. >> >> Tim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> | From: "Sylvain Bauza" <[email protected]> >> | To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" < >> [email protected]> >> | Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:58:07 PM >> | Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack][Runtime Policy] A proposal for >> OpenStack run time policy to manage >> | compute/storage resource >> | >> | >> | >> | Hi Jay, >> | >> | >> | Currently, the Nova scheduler only acts upon user request (either >> | live migration or boot an instance). IMHO, that's something Gantt >> | should scope later on (or at least there could be some space within >> | the Scheduler) so that Scheduler would be responsible for managing >> | resources on a dynamic way. >> | >> | >> | I'm thinking of the Pets vs. Cattles analogy, and I definitely think >> | that Compute resources could be treated like Pets, provided the >> | Scheduler does a move. >> | >> | >> | -Sylvain >> | >> | >> | >> | 2014-02-26 0:40 GMT+01:00 Jay Lau < [email protected] > : >> | >> | >> | >> | >> | Greetings, >> | >> | >> | Here I want to bring up an old topic here and want to get some input >> | from you experts. >> | >> | >> | Currently in nova and cinder, we only have some initial placement >> | polices to help customer deploy VM instance or create volume storage >> | to a specified host, but after the VM or the volume was created, >> | there was no policy to monitor the hypervisors or the storage >> | servers to take some actions in the following case: >> | >> | >> | 1) Load Balance Policy: If the load of one server is too heavy, then >> | probably we need to migrate some VMs from high load servers to some >> | idle servers automatically to make sure the system resource usage >> | can be balanced. >> | >> | 2) HA Policy: If one server get down for some hardware failure or >> | whatever reasons, there is no policy to make sure the VMs can be >> | evacuated or live migrated (Make sure migrate the VM before server >> | goes down) to other available servers to make sure customer >> | applications will not be affect too much. >> | >> | 3) Energy Saving Policy: If a single host load is lower than >> | configured threshold, then low down the frequency of the CPU to save >> | energy; otherwise, increase the CPU frequency. If the average load >> | is lower than configured threshold, then shutdown some hypervisors >> | to save energy; otherwise, power on some hypervisors to load >> | balance. Before power off a hypervisor host, the energy policy need >> | to live migrate all VMs on the hypervisor to other available >> | hypervisors; After Power on a hypervisor host, the Load Balance >> | Policy will help live migrate some VMs to the new powered >> | hypervisor. >> | >> | 4) Customized Policy: Customer can also define some customized >> | policies based on their specified requirement. >> | >> | 5) Some run-time policies for block storage or even network. >> | >> | >> | >> | I borrow the idea from VMWare DRS (Thanks VMWare DRS), and there >> | indeed many customers want such features. >> | >> | >> | >> | I have filed a bp here [1] long ago, but after some discussion with >> | Russell, we think that this should not belong to nova but other >> | projects. Till now, I did not find a good place where we can put >> | this in, can any of you show some comments? >> | >> | >> | >> | [1] >> | >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/resource-optimization-service >> | >> | -- >> | >> | >> | Thanks, >> | >> | Jay >> | >> | _______________________________________________ >> | OpenStack-dev mailing list >> | [email protected] >> | http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> | >> | >> | >> | _______________________________________________ >> | OpenStack-dev mailing list >> | [email protected] >> | >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev&k=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0A&r=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2bqaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0A&m=XDB3hT4WE2iDrNVK0sQ8qKooX2r1T4E%2BVHek3GREhnE%3D%0A&s=e2346cd017c9d8108c12a101892492e2ac75953e4a5ea5c17394c775cf086d7f >> | >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > -- Thanks, Jay
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