On 03/01/2014 03:30 PM, John Griffith wrote: > I just wanted to send out a quick note on a topic that came up recently. > Unfortunately the folks that I'd like to read this most; don't > participate on the ML typically, but I'd at least like to raise some > community awareness. [...]
Thanks for bringing this up John, well done. TL;DR: I'm not a big fan of applying "public peer pressure" to solve the problem and I appreciate you not naming names this time. We have more tools to use before we reach that point. The community has grown at an incredible pace, bringing in people and companies from all over the place, from different parts of the world and from industries that have different habits. Recently we have included in our ranks developers that work for companies that have explicit rules to block IRC on their networks, or that have strong filters on the websites their employees can visit, some can't even join public mailing lists. These people already are forced to invent workarounds to do their jobs: they need encouragement, not shaming. We're not going to win any more friends if we publicly ridiculize, shame companies and people that fail to work in public like we're used to. I think we'll keep having success if we teach, empower and encourage them to do things the OpenStack way. In order to do that I started working months ago an onboarding program for new developers: provide a way for newcomers to learn our tools and technical workflow on one hand and our social behavior, what we find acceptable and what we absolutely cannot tolerate. We'll have a first edition of this program in Atlanta. Some more details on the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Training/Info and the exact dates/place for the sessions in Atlanta in a couple of days. Cheers, stef PS please don't compare us or anybody to Linux community: they are different <http://maffulli.net/2013/07/17/what-linus-can-do-inside-linux-community-and-you-cant-do-in-yours/> -- Ask and answer questions on https://ask.openstack.org _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
