Hi Boris,

I just read the other thread. As Jay asked in [1], have you considered 
precautions in the UI in stead? That should take care of mistakes with manual 
deletes.

Thx
Subbu

[1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/029784.html

On Mar 16, 2014, at 10:37 PM, Boris Pavlovic <[email protected]> wrote:

> Subbu, 
> 
> No it's not too late. It's just proposal for Juno. 
> 
> First of all, you should keep in mind that in you cause it's probably 
> automated. In case of Web Hosting it's done by end users (so it's not 
> automated). 
> 
> If you spend some time and read discussion about removing "Soft deletion" [1] 
> you'll see that restoring "deleted" stuff is popular thing. So the goal of 
> this proposal is to make standard approach for restoring that won't use "soft 
> deletion".  
> 
> 
> [1] http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2014-03/msg00947.html
> 
> Best regards,
> Boris Pavlovic
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Allamaraju, Subbu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hope this is not too late to ask this question, but isn't this extra code 
> just fat finger mistakes?
> 
> IME, most provisioning on cloud happens via automated tools, and it seems 
> counter-productive to design a feature for manual operations.
> 
> Thx,
> Subbu
> 
> On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Boris Pavlovic <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi stackers,
> >
> > As a result of discussion:
> > [openstack-dev] [all][db][performance] Proposal: Get rid of soft deletion 
> > (step by step)
> > http://osdir.com/ml/openstack-dev/2014-03/msg00947.html
> >
> > I understood that there should be another proposal. About how we should 
> > implement Restorable & Delayed Deletion of OpenStack Resource in common way 
> > & without these hacks with soft deletion in DB.  It is actually very 
> > simple, take a look at this document:
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WGrIgMtWJqPDyT6PkPeZhNpej2Q9Mwimula8S8lYGV4/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Boris Pavlovic
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