Hi guys,

+1 to Roman's suggestion.

I think we have to use 0.MINOR.PATCH at least during a few cycles.
API changes aren't a problem if we use a specific (frozen) version in
requirements.

Thanks,
Igor


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Roman Podoliaka <rpodoly...@mirantis.com>
wrote:

> Hi Sergey,
>
> tl;dr
>
> I'd like to be a ready to use version, but not 1.0.0.
>
> So it's a good question and I'd like to hear more input on this from all.
>
> If we start from 1.0.0, this will mean that we'll be very limited in
> terms of changes to public API we can make without bumping the MAJOR
> part of the version number. I don't expect the number of those changes
> to be big, but I also don't want us to happen in a situation when we
> have oslo.db 3.0.0 in a few months (if we follow semver
> pragmatically).
>
> Perhaps, we should stick to 0.MINOR.PATCH versioning for now (as e.g.
> SQLAlchemy and TripleO projects do)? These won't be alphas, but rather
> ready to use versions. And we would still have a bit more 'freedom' to
> do small API changes bumping the MINOR part of the version number (we
> could also do intermediate releases deprecating some stuff, so we
> don't break people projects every time we make some API change).
>
> Thanks,
> Roman
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Sergey Lukjanov <slukja...@mirantis.com>
> wrote:
> > Hey Roman,
> >
> > will it be the alpha version that should not be used by other projects
> > or it'll be ready to use?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Roman Podoliaka
> > <rpodoly...@mirantis.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Matt,
> >>
> >> We're waiting for a few important fixes to be merged (usage of
> >> oslo.config, eventlet tpool support). Once those are merged, we'll cut
> >> the initial release.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Roman
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Matt Riedemann
> >> <mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 4/25/2014 7:46 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Matt Riedemann
> >>>> <mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4/18/2014 1:18 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nice work, Victor!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I left a few comments on the commits that were made after the
> original
> >>>>>> history was exported from the incubator. There were a couple of
> small
> >>>>>> things to address before importing the library, and a couple that
> can
> >>>>>> wait until we have the normal code review system. I'd say just add
> new
> >>>>>> commits to fix the issues, rather than trying to amend the existing
> >>>>>> commits.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We haven't really discussed how to communicate when we agree the new
> >>>>>> repository is ready to be imported, but it seems reasonable to use
> the
> >>>>>> patch in openstack-infra/config that will be used to do the import:
> >>>>>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78955/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Doug
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Victor Sergeyev
> >>>>>> <vserge...@mirantis.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> During Icehouse release cycle our team has been working on
> splitting of
> >>>>>>> openstack common db code into a separate library blueprint [1]. At
> the
> >>>>>>> moment the issues, mentioned in this bp and [2] are solved and we
> are
> >>>>>>> moving
> >>>>>>> forward to graduation of oslo.db. You can find the new oslo.db
> code at
> >>>>>>> [3]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So, before moving forward, I want to ask Oslo team to review
> oslo.db
> >>>>>>> repository [3] and especially the commit, that allows the unit
> tests to
> >>>>>>> pass
> >>>>>>> [4].
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Victor
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/oslo-db-lib
> >>>>>>> [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/GraduationStatus#oslo.db
> >>>>>>> [3] https://github.com/malor/oslo.db
> >>>>>>> [4]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> https://github.com/malor/oslo.db/commit/276f7570d7af4a7a62d0e1ffb4edf904cfbf0600
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>>>> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org
> >>>>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm probably just late to the party, but simple question: why is it
> in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> malor group in github rather than the openstack group, like
> >>>>> oslo.messaging
> >>>>> and oslo.rootwrap?  Is that temporary or will it be moved at some
> point?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is the copy of the code being prepared to import into a new
> >>>> oslo.db repository. It's easier to set up that temporary hosting on
> >>>> github. The repo has been approved to be imported, and after that
> >>>> happens it will be hosted on our git server like all of the other oslo
> >>>> libraries.
> >>>>
> >>>> Doug
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Matt Riedemann
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Are there any status updates on where we are with this [1]?  I see that
> >>> oslo.db is in git.openstack.org now [2].  There is a super-alpha dev
> package
> >>> on pypi [3], are we waiting for an official release?
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to start moving nova over to using oslo.db or at least get an
> idea
> >>> for how much work it's going to be.  I don't imagine it's going to be
> that
> >>> difficult since I think a lot of the oslo.db code originated in nova.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91407/
> >>> [2] http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.db/
> >>> [3] https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.db/0.0.1.dev15.g7efbf12
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Matt Riedemann
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely yours,
> > Sergey Lukjanov
> > Sahara Technical Lead
> > (OpenStack Data Processing)
> > Principal Software Engineer
> > Mirantis Inc.
> >
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