> Dear All,
> 
> Let me use my first post to this list to introduce Cyclops and initiate a
> discussion towards possibility of this platform as a future incubated
> project in OpenStack.
> 
> We at Zurich university of Applied Sciences have a python project in open
> source (Apache 2 Licensing) that aims to provide a platform to do
> rating-charging-billing over ceilometer. We call is Cyclops (A Charging
> platform for OPenStack CLouds).
> 
> The initial proof of concept code can be accessed here:
> https://github.com/icclab/cyclops-web &
> https://github.com/icclab/cyclops-tmanager
> 
> Disclaimer: This is not the best code out there, but will be refined and
> documented properly very soon!
> 
> A demo video from really early days of the project is here:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIwwVxqCio0 and since this video was made,
> several bug fixes and features were added.
> 
> The idea presentation was done at Swiss Open Cloud Day at Bern and the talk
> slides can be accessed here:
> http://piyush-harsh.info/content/ocd-bern2014.pdf , and more recently the
> research paper on the idea was published in 2014 World Congress in Computer
> Science (Las Vegas), which can be accessed here:
> http://piyush-harsh.info/content/GCA2014-rcb.pdf
> 
> I was wondering, if our effort is something that OpenStack
> Ceilometer/Telemetry release team would be interested in?
> 
> I do understand that initially rating-charging-billing service may have been
> left out by choice as they would need to be tightly coupled with existing
> CRM/Billing systems, but Cyclops design (intended) is distributed, service
> oriented architecture with each component allowing for possible integration
> with external software via REST APIs. And therefore Cyclops by design is
> CRM/Billing platform agnostic. Although Cyclops PoC implementation does
> include a basic bill generation module.
> 
> We in our team are committed to this development effort and we will have
> resources (interns, students, researchers) work on features and improve the
> code-base for a foreseeable number of years to come.
> 
> Do you see a chance if our efforts could make in as an incubated project in
> OpenStack within Ceilometer?

Hi Piyush,

Thanks for bringing this up!

I should preface my remarks by setting out a little OpenStack
history, in terms of the original decision not to include the
rating and billing stages of the pipeline under the ambit of
the ceilometer project.

IIUC, the logic was that such rating/billing policies were very
likely to be:

  (a) commercially sensitive for competing cloud operators

and:

  (b) already built-out via existing custom/proprietary systems

The folks who were directly involved at the outset of ceilometer
can correct me if I've misrepresented the thinking that pertained
at the time.

While that logic seems to still apply, I would be happy to learn
more about the work you've done already on this, and would be
open to hearing arguments for and against. Are you planning to
attend the Kilo summit in Paris (Nov 3-7)? If so, it would be a
good opportunity to discuss further in person.

In the meantime, stackforge provides a low-bar-to-entry for
projects in the OpenStack ecosystem that may, or may not, end up
as incubated projects or as dependencies taken by graduated
projects. So you might consider moving your code there?

Cheers,
Eoghan


 
> I really would like to hear back from you, comments, suggestions, etc.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Piyush.
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> Researcher, InIT Cloud Computing Lab
> Zurich University of Applied Sciences (ZHAW)
> [Site] http://piyush-harsh.info
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