David, I'm happy to hear that :)! After thinking a bit, I came up with the following strategy for further Merlin development: make all the commits into a separate repository (stackforge/merlin) at least until the PoC is ready. This will allow to keep project history more granular instead of updating one large commit inside openstack/horizon gerrit (thus also lessening the burden on Horizon reviewers). Once the Merlin proceeds from the experimental/PoC phase to the implementing of a more elaborated spec, it will be just the time for it to join with the Horizon.
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Lyle, David <[email protected]> wrote: > On 8/6/14, 1:41 PM, "Timur Sufiev" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>Hi, folks! >> >>Two months ago there was an announcement in ML about gathering the >>requirements for cross-project UI library for >>Heat/Mistral/Murano/Solum [1]. The positive feedback in related >>googledoc [2] and some IRC chats and emails that followed convinced me >>that I'm not the only person interested in it :), so I'm happy to make >>the next announcement. >> >>The project finally has got its name - 'Merlin' (making complex UIs is >>a kind of magic), Openstack wiki page [3] and all other stuff like >>stackforge repo, launchpad page and IRC channel (they are all >>referenced in [3]). For those who don't like clicking the links, here >>is quick summary. >> >>Merlin aims to provide a convenient client side framework for building >>rich UIs for Openstack projects dealing with complex input data with >>lot of dependencies and constraints (usually encoded in YAML format >>via some DSL) - projects like Heat, Murano, Mistral or Solum. The >>ultimate goal for such UI is to save users from reading comprehensive >>documentation just in order to provide correct input data, thus making >>the UI of these projects more user-friendly. If things go well for >>Merlin, it could be eventually merged into Horizon library (I¹ll spare >>another option for the end of this letter). >> >>The framework trying to solve this ambitious task is facing at least 2 >>challenges: >>(1) enabling the proper UX patterns and >>(2) dealing with complexities of different projects' DSLs. >> >>Having worked on DSL things in Murano project before, I'm planning at >>first to deal with the challenge (2) in the upcoming Merlin PoC. So, >>here is the initial plan: design an in-framework object model (OM) >>that could translated forth and back into target project's DSL. This >>OM is meant to be synchronised with visual elements shown on browser >>canvas. Target project is the Heat with its HOT templates - it has the >>most well-established syntax among other projects and comprehensive >>documentation. >> >>Considering the challenge (1), not being a dedicated UX engineer, I'm >>planning to start with some rough UI concepts [4] and gradually >>improve them relying on community feedback, and especially, Openstack >>UX group. If anybody from the UX team (or any other team!) is willing >>to be involved to a greater degree than just giving some feedback, >>you're are enormously welcome! Join Merlin, it will be fun :)! >> >>Finally, with this announcement I¹d like to start a discussion with >>Horizon community. As far as I know, Horizon in its current state >>lacks such UI toolkit as Merlin aims to provide. Would it be by any >>chance possible for the Merlin project to be developed from the very >>beginning as part of Horizon library? This choice has its pros and >>cons I¹m aware of, but I¹d like to hear the opinions of Horizon >>developers on that matter. > > I would like to see this toolset built into Horizon. That will make it > accessible to integrated projects like Heat that Horizon already supports, > but will also allow other projects to use the horizon library as a > building block to providing managing project specific DSLs. > > David > >> >>[1] >>http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/037054.html >>[2] >>https://docs.google.com/a/mirantis.com/document/d/19Q9JwoO77724RyOp7XkpYmA >>Lwmdb7JjoQHcDv4ffZ-I/edit# >>[3] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Merlin >>[4] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Merlin/SampleUI >> >>-- >>Timur Sufiev >> >>_______________________________________________ >>OpenStack-dev mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Timur Sufiev _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
