On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Chris Dent <chd...@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Aug 2014, Joe Gordon wrote:
>
> [Other stuff snipped, thanks for that, good to have some pointers.]
>
>
>  Why can't you run devstack locally? Maybe there are some changes we can
>> make so its easier to run devstack locally first.
>>
>
> I do run a local devstack, and throw in some tempest and grenade every
> now and again too.
>
> But in terms of automated local testing in the project tree there are
> places it is difficult for clean unit tests to reach. Sure we can make
> really hairy mocks, but that results in tests which a) make no sense
> b) it is hard to have any confidence in.
>
> Thus "in tree functional tests":
>
> * to reach places unit tests won't go
> * to not have the noise of all that mock and OO mess
> * to have some faith in the end to end
>
> The sorts of things that require provisioning of temporary datastores,
> interception of wsgi apps, in process message queues...



agreed


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