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On 2014-10-30, at 下午8:05, Hly <henry4...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi,
> 
> Network reachability is not an issue for live migration, it is the same as 
> cold. The challenge is near realtime order control of interaction between 
> parent proxies, child virt drivers, agents, and libvirt lib.
> 
> Wu
> 

Also it destroy the principle of "only REST between POD", so we may study it in 
some special POC cases


> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> On 2014-10-30, at 下午7:28, joehuang <joehu...@huawei.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello, Keshava
>> 
>> Live migration is allowed inside one pod ( one cascaded OpenStack instance 
>> ), not support cross pods live migration yet. 
>> 
>> But cold migration could be done between pods, even cross data centers.
>> 
>> Live migration cross pods will be studied in the future.
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Chaoyi Huang ( joehuang )
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: A, Keshava [keshav...@hp.com]
>> Sent: 30 October 2014 17:45
>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by 
>> OpenStack cascading
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Can the VM migration happens across POD (Zone) ?
>> If so then how reachability of VM is addressed dynamically without any 
>> packet loss ?
>> 
>> Thanks & Regards,
>> keshava
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wuhongning [mailto:wuhongn...@huawei.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:56 AM
>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by 
>> OpenStack cascading
>> 
>> Hi keshava,
>> 
>> Thanks for interested in Cascading. Here are some very simple explanation:
>> 
>> Basically Datacenter is not in the 2-level tree of cascading. We use term 
>> "POD" to represent a cascaded child openstack (same meaning of your term 
>> Zone?). There may be single or multiple PODs in one Datacenter, Just like 
>> below:
>> 
>> (A, B, C)  ...  (D, E)  ...  (F)  ...   (G)
>> Each character represent a POD or child openstack, while parenthesis 
>> represent a Datacenter.
>> 
>> Each POD has a corresponding virtual host node in the parent openstack, so 
>> when scheduler of any projects (nova/neutron/cinder...) locate a host node, 
>> the resource POD is determined, also with its geo-located Datacenter by side 
>> effect. Cascading don't schedule by Datacenter directly, DC is just an 
>> attribute of POD (for example we can configure host aggregate to identify a 
>> DC with multiple PODs). The upper scale of POD is fixed, maybe several 
>> hundreds, so a super large DC with tens of thousands servers could be built 
>> by modularized PODs, avoiding the difficult of tuning and maintaining such a 
>> huge monolithic openstack.
>> 
>> Next do you mean networking reachability? Sorry for the limitation of mail 
>> post I can just give some very simple idea: in parent openstack the L2pop 
>> and DVR is used, so L2/L3 agent-proxy in each virtual host node can get all 
>> the vm reachability information of other POD, then they are set to local POD 
>> by Neutron REST API. However, cascading depends on some feature not exists 
>> yet in current Neutron, like L2GW, pluggable external network, WE Fwaas in 
>> DVR, centralized FIP in DVR... so we have to do some little patch in the 
>> front. In the future if these features is merged, these patch code can be 
>> removed.
>> 
>> Indeed Neutron is the most challenge part of cascading, without considering 
>> those proxies in the parent openstack virtual host node, Neutron patchs 
>> account for 85% or more LOC in the whole project.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Wu
>> ________________________________________
>> From: keshava [keshav...@hp.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:22 PM
>> To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [tc] Multi-clouds integration by     
>> OpenStack cascading
>> 
>> This is very interesting problem to solve.
>> I am curious to know how the reachability is provided across different 
>> Datacenter.
>> How to know which VM is part of which Datacenter?
>> VM may be in different Zone but under same DC or in different DC itself.
>> 
>> How this problem is solved?
>> 
>> 
>> thanks & regards,
>> keshava
>> 
>> 
>> 
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