On 05/01/15 08:57 -0800, Morgan Fainberg wrote:

On Jan 5, 2015, at 08:07, Nikhil Komawar <nikhil.koma...@rackspace.com> wrote:

Based on the feedback received, we would like to avoid logging on the project 
channel. My take from the discussion was that it gives many a folks a feeling 
of informal platform to express their ideas freely in contrast to the meeting 

However, at the same time I would like to point out that using foul language in the open 
freenode channels is a bad practice. There are no admins monitoring our project channels 
however, those channels that are monitored have people kicked out on misbehavior.  The 
point being, "no logging" means freedom of thought for only the creative 
purposes; please do not take me any other way.


I just want to point out that keystone has logging enabled for our channel and 
I do not see it as a hamper to creative discussion / open discussion. The 
logging is definitely of value. Also a lot of people will locally log a given 
irc channel, which largely nets the same result.

It is still not an official meeting, and we have heated debates at times, the 
logging let's us check back on things discussed outside of the official 
meetings. I do admit it is used less frequently than the meeting logs.

Fully agree... I don't see how enable logging should be a limitation
for freedom of thought. We've used it in Zaqar since day 0 and it's
bee of great help for all of us.

The logging does not remove the need of meetings where decisions and
more relevant/important topics are discussed.

From: Anita Kuno [ante...@anteaya.info]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 10:42 AM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] IRC logging

On 01/05/2015 06:42 AM, Cindy Pallares wrote:
Hi all,

I would like to re-open the discussion on IRC logging for the glance
channel. It was discussed on a meeting back in November[1], but it
didn't seem to have a lot of input from the community and it was not
discussed in the mailing list. A lot of information is exchanged through
the channel and it isn't accessible for people who occasionally come
into our channel from other projects, new contributors, and people who
don't want to be reached off-hours or don't have bouncers. Logging our
channel would  increase our community's transparency and make our
development discussions publicly accessible to contributors in all
time-zones and from other projects. It is very useful to look back on
the logs for previous discussions or as well as to refer people to
discussions or questions previously answered.


Thanks for bringing this up :)


Flavio Percoco

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