It's worth noting that all Neutron ML2 drivers are required to move to
their own repos starting in Kilo so installing an extra python package to
use a driver will become part of the standard Neutron installation
workflow. So I would suggest creating a stackforge project for the vDS
driver and packaging it up.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Andrey Danin <ada...@mirantis.com> wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> As you may know, Fuel 6.0 has an ability to deploy either a KVM-oriented
> environment or a VMware vCenter-oriented environment. We wants to go
> further and mix them together. A user should be able to run both
> hypervisors in one OpenStack environment. We want to get it in Fuel 6.1.
> Here is how we gonna do this.
>
> * When vCenter is used as a hypervisor the only way to use volumes with it
> is to use Cinder VMDK backend. And vise versa, KVM cannot operate with the
> volumes provided by Cinder VMDK backend. All that means that we should have
> two separe infrastructures (a hypervisor + a volume service) for each HV
> presented in environment. To do that we decided to place corresponding
> nova-compute and cinder-volume instances into different Availability Zones.
> Also we want to disable 'cross_az_attach' option in nova.conf to restrict a
> user to mount a volume to an instance which doesn't support this volume
> type.
>
> * A cinder-volume service is just a proxy between vCenter Datastore and
> Glance when used with VMDK. It means that the service itself doesn't need a
> local hard drive but sometimes can significantly consume network. That's
> why it's not a good idea to always put it to a Controller node. So, we want
> to add a new role called 'cinder-vmdk'. A user will be able to put this
> role to whatever node he wants: a separate node or combine with other
> roles. HA will be achieved by placing the role on two or more nodes.
> Cinder-volume services on each node will be configured identicaly,
> including 'host' stanza. We have the same approach now for Cinder+Ceph.
>
> * Nova-compute services for vCenter are kept running on Controller nodes.
> They are managed by Corosync.
>
> * There are two options for network backend exist. A good old Nova-network
> and a modern Neutron with ML2 DVS driver enabled. The problem with
> Nova-network is that we have to run it in 'singlehost' mode. It means, that
> the only nova-network service will be running for the whole environment. It
> makes the service a single point of failure, prevents a user to use
> Security Groups, and increases a network consuming for the node where the
> service is running. The problem with Neutron is that there is no ML2 DVS
> driver in an upstream Neutron for Juno and even Kilo. The is an unmerged
> patch [1] with almost no chances to get in Kilo. Good news are that we
> managed to run a PoC lab with this driver and both HVs enabled. So, we can
> build the driver as a package but it'll be a little ugly. That's why we
> picked the Nova-network approach as a basis. In Cluster creation wizard
> will be something to choose if you want to use vCenter in a cluster or not.
> Depending on it the nova-network service will be run in the 'singlenode' or
> 'multinode' mode. May be, if we have enough resources we'll implement a
> Neutron + vDS support also.
>
> * We are going to move all VMWare-specific settings to a separate UI tab.
> On the Settings tab we will keep a Glance backend switch (Swift, Ceph,
> VMware) and a libvirt_type switch (KVM, qemu). At the cluster creation
> wizard there will be a checkbox called 'add a VMware vCenter support into
> your cloud'. When it's enabled a user can choose nova-network only.
>
> * OSTF test suit will be extended to support separate sets of tests for
> each HV.
>
> [1] Neutron ML2 vDS driver https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111227/
>
> Links to blueprints:
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/vmware-ui-settings
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/cinder-vmdk-role
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/vmware-dual-hypervisor
>
>
> I would appreciate to see your thoughts about all that.
>
>
>
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> Andrey Danin
> ada...@mirantis.com
> skype: gcon.monolake
>
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