+1 to Sergii. It's completely a crazy idea to replace one feature with
another and don't provide a fallback mode. We have no data how it
works on the user side in real life. I think it could be marked as
"deprecated", but it definitely must be present at least one release
yet.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Sergii Golovatiuk
<sgolovat...@mirantis.com> wrote:
> Until we are sure IBP solves operation phase where we need to deliver
> updated packages so client will be able to provision new machines with these
> fixed packages, I would leave backward compatibility with normal provision.
> ... Just in case.
>
>
>
> --
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> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov
> <vkozhuka...@mirantis.com> wrote:
>>
>> My suggestion is to make IBP the only option available for all upcoming
>> OpenStack releases which are defined in openstack.yaml. It is to be possible
>> to install OS using kickstart for all currently available OpenStack
>> releases.
>>
>> Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Igor Kalnitsky <ikalnit...@mirantis.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just want to be sure I understand you correctly: do you propose to
>>> FORBID kickstart/preseed installation way in upcoming release at all?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>> <vkozhuka...@mirantis.com> wrote:
>>> > Subject is changed.
>>> >
>>> > Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>> > <vkozhuka...@mirantis.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear Fuelers,
>>> >>
>>> >> As you might know we need it to be possible to install several
>>> >> versions of
>>> >> a particular OS (Ubuntu and Centos) by 6.1  As far as having different
>>> >> OS
>>> >> versions also means having different sets of packages and some of  the
>>> >> packages are installed and configured during provisioning stage, we
>>> >> need to
>>> >> have a kind of kickstart/preseed version mechanism.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cobbler is exactly such a mechanism. It allows us to have several
>>> >> Distros
>>> >> (installer images) and profiles (kickstart/preseed files). But
>>> >> unfortunately, for some reasons we have not been using those Cobbler's
>>> >> capabilities since the beginning of Fuel and it doesn't seem to be
>>> >> easily
>>> >> introduced into Nailgun to deal with the whole Cobbler life cycle.
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyway, we are moving towards IBP (image based provisioning) and we
>>> >> already have different images connected to different OpenStack
>>> >> releases
>>> >> (openstack.yaml) and everything else which is necessary for initial
>>> >> node
>>> >> configuration is serialized inside provision data (including profile
>>> >> name
>>> >> like 'ubuntu_1204' or 'ubuntu_1404') and we are able to choose
>>> >> cloud-init
>>> >> template by this profile name.
>>> >>
>>> >> And taking into account what it is written above, the suggestion is to
>>> >> completely avoid using kickstart/preseed based way of OS provisioning
>>> >> by 6.1
>>> >> for all new releases allowing ONLY old ones to use this way.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any opinions about that stuff are welcome.
>>> >>
>>> >> Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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