Hi Vijay,
My understanding was that each vendor will have different behavior for entity 
creation. LBaaS apis will mark each entity as PENDING_CREATE (?) initially and 
its up to specific vendor driver whether to mark entities as DEFERRED or 
actually CREATE them on LB. Vendor logic can decide the action based on whether 
hierarchy/criteria is met per their LB prerequisite.


From: Vijay Venkatachalam 
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Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 5:13 AM
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Subject: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] Can entity calls be made to driver 
when entities get associated/disassociated with root entity?


In OpenStack neutron lbaas implementation, when entities are created/updated by 
the user, they might not be associated with the root entity, which is 
Since root entity has the driver information, the driver cannot be called by 
lbaas plugin during these operations by user.
Such entities are set in DEFFERED status until the entity is associated with 
root entity.
During this association operation (listener created with pool), the driver api 
is called for the current operation (listener create); and the driver is 
expected to perform the original operation (pool create) along with the current 
operation (listener create).
This leads to complex handling at the driver, I think it will be better for the 
lbaas plugin to call the original operation (pool create) driver API in 
addition to the current operation (listener create) API during the association 

That is the summary, please read on to understand the situation in detail.

Let’s take the example of pool create in driver.

a.       A pool create operation will not translate to a pool create api in the 
driver. There is a pool create in the driver API but that is never called today.

b.      When a listener is created with loadbalancer and pool, the driver’s 
listener create api is called and the driver is expected to create both pool 
and listener.

c.       When a listener is first created without loadbalancer but with a pool, 
the call does not reach driver. Later when the listener is updated with 
loadbalancer id,  the drivers listener update  API is called and the driver is 
expected to create both pool and listener.

d.  When a listener configured with pool and loadbalancer is updated with new 
pool id,  the driver’s listener update api is called. The driver is expected to 
delete the original pool that was associated, create the new pool and  also 
update the listener

As you can see this is leading to a quite a bit of handling in the driver code. 
This makes driver code complex.

How about handling this logic in lbaas plugin and it can call the “natural” 
functions that were deferred.

Whenever an entity is going from a DEFERRED to ACTIVE/CREATE status (through 
whichever workflow) the plugin can call the CREATE pool function of the driver.
Whenever an entity is going from an ACTIVE/CREATED to DEFERRED status (through 
whichever workflow) the plugin can call the DELETE pool function of the driver.

Vijay V.
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