On 24 April 2015 at 04:14, Chris Dent <chd...@redhat.com> wrote: > > This might be a bit presumptuous, but why not give it a try...
Nothing presumptuous about it at all :) > There are many different ways to define "quality". For the sake of > this question feel free to use whatever definition you like but take > it as given that "quality" needs to be improved. > > Here's the question: > > What can and should the TC at large, and you specifically, do to ensure > quality improves for the developers, end-users and operators of > OpenStack as a full system, both as a project being developed and a > product being used? We've got a strong culture around many key elements of a high quality product: backwards compatibility around APIs, testing, asking our users and operators what their needs and pain points are. The balkanisation of OpenStack is a big concern for me though, particularly as it relates to usability. I'd like to see more cross-project collaboration around OpenStack as a product (vs N 'small' products) - and the TC can encourage that (even with the big tent model). Since we're an open source project, this has to be done in an inclusive opt-in fashion, not dictatorial, so my first approach here would be discussion and setting up a wg on it. The existing API working group for instance is one method aiming to provide consistency, but we've also got to look at differences like the tasks vs not-tasks approach different servers take, and where things like e.g. Zaqar are/aren't usable. Right now development is pretty hard on lots of OpenStack, and this holds us back - I referred to this in my TC candidacy email, and I believe sorting this out is a pre-requisite for improving the developer experience - but also for enabling improvements in quality for users. Some key things have improved in the last 6 months like review latency - but we can do more there. We need to make the gate be more reliable, isolating it from unintentional external failures, and reducing flakiness in OpenStack itself. I'm working on that now, working on improvements to pip to enable much better robustness in our gate. -Rob -- Robert Collins <rbtcoll...@hp.com> Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud __________________________________________________________________________ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
