On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:53 AM, James Bottomley < [email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 10:45 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Joe Gordon wrote: > > > [...] > > > To tackle this I would like to propose the idea of a periodic developer > > > oriented newsletter, and if we agree to go forward with this, hopefully > > > the foundation can help us find someone to write newsletter. > > > > I've been discussing the idea of a "LWN" for OpenStack for some time, > > originally with Mark McLoughlin. For those who don't know it, LWN > > (lwn.net) is a source of quality tech reporting on Linux in general (and > > the kernel in particular). It's written by developers and tech reporters > > and funded by subscribers. > > > > An LWN-like OpenStack development newsletter would provide general > > status, dive into specific features, report on specific > > talks/conferences, summarize threads etc. It would be tremendously > > useful to the development community. > > > > The issue is, who can write such content ? It is a full-time job to > > produce authored content, you can't just copy (or link to) content > > produced elsewhere. It takes a very special kind of individual to write > > such content: the person has to be highly technical, able to tackle any > > topic, and totally connected with the OpenStack development community. > > That person has to be cross-project and ideally have already-built > > legitimacy. > > Here, you're being overly restrictive. Lwn.net isn't staffed by top > level kernel maintainers (although it does solicit the occasional > article from them). It's staffed by people who gained credibility via > their insightful reporting rather than by their contributions. I see no > reason why the same model wouldn't work for OpenStack. > ++. I have a hunch that like many things (in OpenStack) if you make a space for people to step up, they will. > > There is one technical difference: in the kernel, you can get all the > information from the linux-kernel (and other mailing list) firehose if > you're skilled enough to extract it. With OpenStack, openstack-dev > isn't enough so you have to do other stuff as well, but that's more or > less equivalent to additional research. > > > It's basically the kind of profile every OpenStack company > > is struggling and fighting to hire. And that rare person should not > > really want to spend that much time developing (or become CTO of a > > startup) but prefer to write technical articles about what happens in > > OpenStack development. I'm not sure such a person exists. And a > > newsletter actually takes more than one such person, because it's a lot > > of work (even if not weekly). > > That's a bit pessimistic: followed to it's logical conclusion it would > say that lwn.net can't exist either ... which is a bit of a > contradiction. > > > So as much as I'd like this to happen, I'm not convinced it's worth > > getting excited unless we have clear indication that we would have > > people willing and able to pull it off. The matter of who pays the bill > > is secondary -- I just don't think the profile exists. > > > > For the matter, I tried to push such an idea in the past and couldn't > > find anyone to fit the rare profile I think is needed to succeed. All > > the people I could think of had other more interesting things to do. I > > don't think things changed -- but I'd love to be proven wrong. > > Um, I assume you've thought of this already, but have you tried asking > lwn.net? As you say above, they already fit the profile. Whether they > have the bandwidth is another matter, but I believe their Chief Editor > (Jon Corbet) may welcome a broadening of the funding base, particularly > if the OpenStack foundation were offering seed funding for the > endeavour. > > James > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: [email protected]?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >
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