On 06/12/2015 03:33 PM, Dmitry Borodaenko wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 02:25:31PM +0200, Flavio Percoco wrote: >>> I have already explained in the thread how we address the problem of >>> tracking down and managing the Fuel specific changes in forked modules. >>> With that problem addressed, I don't see any other objective reason for >>> frustration. Does anybody's bonus depend on the number of lines of code >>> in stackforge repositories such as fuel-library that git blame >>> attributes to their name? >> >> I don't think anyone here is talking about bonuses or worrying about >> salaries. The fact that you mention it offends the purposes of this >> thread and, as much as you don't care, I'm really sad to read that. >> >> The whole thing this thread is trying to achieve is improving >> collaboration and you are derailing the conversation with completely >> unfriendly/unhelpful comments like the one above. > > I am really sorry that I made you feel bad about what I wrote, I didn't > mean to do that. I actually completely agree with you that this aspect > of the thread was derailing the conversation, and I tried to use > reductio ad absurdum to demonstrate how ridiculous it can get if we > focus on perfecting author attribution instead of discussing > collaboration. I should have been more explicit in indicating that I > didn't actually mean this as a serious question. Lets write it off as a > bad joke that didn't make it across the language barrier. > >> It does cause frustration because, as you can read from Emiliem's >> original email, it not just adds some extra burden to people in the >> puppet team but it also defeates the purposes of the team itself, >> which is creating OpenStack puppet manifests that are consumable by >> everyone. > > Now I see that we're on the same page. I agree that it does add extra > burden, and even though we've done what we could to reduce that burden > in the process I've described earlier, the only way to eliminate it > completely is to use upstream Puppet modules in Fuel directly and > without Fuel specific modifications. I see a broad consensus on this > thread in favor of setting this as the end goal, and I gladly join that > sentiment. > > To prove that I'm not merely trying to placate you, here's what I had to > say about this to the Fuel team back in March 2014 when we first came up > with our current process for tracking upsteam: > > https://lists.launchpad.net/fuel-dev/msg00727.html > > Peace?
It seems we finally broke the ice and found some agreements here, I'm quite happy. Thanks for your help and your involvement in this topic, it's really appreciated. -- Emilien Macchi
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