Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-06-05 10:23:52 -0400:
> Excerpts from Doug Hellmann's message of 2015-05-29 17:38:04 -0400:
> > This message is a summary of the notes from the “Release Versioning 
> > Servers” discussion held during the release management/QA/infrastructure 
> > meetup period on Friday morning at the summit, along with some commentary I 
> > thought of as I was typing them up. There is no etherpad for that session, 
> > but the notes we took were captured as a photo of the whiteboard, which you 
> > can see at 
> > http://doughellmann.com/2015/05/29/openstack-server-version-numbering.html
> > 
> > tl;dr: To simplify release management, especially for projects releasing 
> > more than one time per cycle, we would like projects currently using 
> > date-based versioning to move to semver. Existing projects following some 
> > form of semver should keep doing what they’re doing.
> > 
> > 
> > Moving away from date-based release numbers removes the confusion about 
> > what an update to a release occurring in the following year means. It also 
> > makes it easier for us to publish server releases through PyPI, if we 
> > choose to do that (it was discussed, but I don’t remember a firm 
> > agreement). The transition introduces some complications, but we think it 
> > is possible to handle them all.
> > 
> > As with our other semver projects, we will use pbr’s interpretation of the 
> > semver rules (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/pbr/semver.html) for 
> > minor updates and patch releases. I don’t believe we discussed whether to 
> > increment the major version during each cycle as we have been doing. Under 
> > the semver rules that would indicate incompatibility, and we may not want 
> > to signal that arbitrarily. We should discuss that further leading up to 
> > the M summit, when we start preparing for the *next* cycle.
> > 
> > Since kilo was release 11, I proposed we start with version 12.0.0 for 
> > everyone’s next release and proceed from there following semver rules. This 
> > will result in resetting the version numbers to values lower than they are 
> > currently (12 < 2015), but the distributions can prepend an epoch value to 
> > their version number to ensure upgrades work properly. It will also mean 
> > that project versions will drift apart over time, since some projects such 
> > as Ironic will start having more intermediate releases.
> 
> Thierry and I had a conversation about this today, and he has
> convinced me that since project versions will diverge anyway, we
> shouldn't start out using the same version for everyone. So instead
> of picking 12 for all projects, we will look at how many releases
> a project has had and add 1 to produce the next version. That will
> spread out the version numbers now, and reduce the tendency for
> consumers of the projects to assume that the version numbers match
> up with the release cycles. We will work with the release liaisons and
> PTLs to figure out the version numbers for projects as we get close to
> the L1 milestone.

I put together a little script [1] to try to count the previous
releases for projects, to use that as the basis for their first
SemVer-based version number. I pasted the output into an etherpad
[2] and started making notes about proposed release numbers at the
top. For now, I'm only working with the projects that have been
managed by the release team (have the "release:managed" tag in the
governance repository), but it should be easy enough for other projects
to use the same idea to pick a version number.

I still need to chat with Kyle about some of the neutron spin-out
projects, since their repositories have the old neutron tags but I don't
think it's appropriate to use the same version number as neutron for
newer projects.

Here's the proposed list, let me know if you spot any surprises:

ceilometer 5.0.0
cinder 6.0.0
glance 8.0.0
heat 5.0.0
horizon 9.0.0
ironic 3.0.0
keystone 8.0.0
neutron 8.0.0
neutron-fwaas 
neutron-lbaas 
neutron-vpnaas 
nova 12.0.0
sahara 3.0.0
trove 4.0.0

Doug

[1] https://review.openstack.org/191228
[2] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-initial-semver-values

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