On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net> wrote:

> On 06/24/2015 01:31 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Dague <s...@dague.net
> > <mailto:s...@dague.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Back when Nova first wanted to test partial upgrade, we did a bunch
> of
> >     slightly odd conditionals inside of grenade and devstack to make it
> so
> >     that if you were very careful, you could just not stop some of the
> old
> >     services on a single node, upgrade everything else, and as long as
> the
> >     old services didn't stop, they'd be running cached code in memory,
> and
> >     it would look a bit like a 2 node worker not upgraded model. It
> worked,
> >     but it was weird.
> >
> >     There has been some interest by the Nova team to expand what's not
> being
> >     touched, as well as the Neutron team to add partial upgrade testing
> >     support. Both are great initiatives, but I think going about it the
> old
> >     way is going to add a lot of complexity in weird places, and not be
> as
> >     good of a test as we really want.
> >
> >     Nodepool now supports allocating multiple nodes. We have a multinode
> job
> >     in Nova regularly testing live migration using this.
> >
> >     If we slice this problem differently, I think we get a better
> >     architecture, a much easier way to add new configs, and a much more
> >     realistic end test.
> >
> >     Conceptually, use devstack-gate multinode support to set up 2 nodes,
> an
> >     all in one, and a worker. Let grenade upgrade the all in one, leave
> the
> >     worker alone.
> >
> >     I think the only complexity here is the fact that grenade.sh
> implicitly
> >     drives stack.sh. Which means one of:
> >
> >     1) devstack-gate could build the worker first, then run grenade.sh
> >
> >     2) we make it so grenade.sh can execute in parts more easily, so it
> can
> >     hand something else running stack.sh for it.'
> >
> >     3) we make grenade understand the subnode for partial upgrade, so it
> >     will run the stack phase on the subnode itself (given credentials).
> >
> >     This kind of approach means deciding which services you don't want to
> >     upgrade doesn't require devstack changes, it's just a change of the
> >     services on the worker.
> >
> >     We need a volunteer for taking this on, but I think all the follow on
> >     partial upgrade support will be much much easier to do after we have
> >     this kind of mechanism in place.
> >
> >
> > I think this is a great approach for the future of partial upgrade
> > support in grenade. I would like to point out step 0 here, is to get
> > tempest passing consistently in multinode.
> >
> > Currently the neutron job is failing consistently, and nova-network
> > fails roughly 10% of the time due
> > to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1462305
> > and https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1445569
>
> Grenade is only running tempest smoke, which is a quite small number of
> tests (and not the shelve/unshelve one for instance). I would expect
> it's pass rate to be much higher.
>
>
One way to find out. Want to get a multinode tempest smoke job running and
see how it looks after running for a few days.


>         -Sean
>
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