On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Morgan Fainberg <morgan.fainb...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> We don't utilize email address for anything. It is not meant to be a
> top-level column. We've had a lot of discussions on this. The main result
> is we decided that Keystone should be getting out of the PII game as much
> as possible.
>
> I am  against making email a top level attribute. Instead we should be
> de-emphasizing adding in email (for PII reasons, as keystone does not have
> a way to securely store them - even as a top-level column) unless email is
> used as a username. As I recall "email address" was meant to be removed
> from most/all of our API examples for these reasons. Unless OpenStack or
> Keystone starts making real use of the email address and needs that PII in
> the keystone store, it doesn't make sense to treat it as a first class
> attribute. Keystone is not a CRM tool.
>
>
+1


> As a side note, I have proposed a way (it needs further work and would be
> a Mitaka target) to add validation to the extra attributes on a
> case-by-case basis for a given deployment. [1]
>
> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190532/
>
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>
> On Sep 11, 2015, at 06:55, Lance Bragstad <lbrags...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:04 AM, David Stanek <dsta...@dstanek.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Christian Berendt <christ...@berendt.io>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At the moment it is possible to create new users with invalid mail
>>> addresses. I pasted the output of my test at
>>> http://paste.openstack.org/show/456642/. (the listing of invalid mail
>>> addresses is available at
>>> http://codefool.tumblr.com/post/15288874550/list-of-valid-and-invalid-email-addresses
>>> ).
>>>
>>> Is it intended that addresses are not be validated?
>>>
>>> Does it makes sense to validate addresses (e.g. with
>>> https://github.com/mailgun/flanker)?
>>>
>>
>> I don't know the complete history of this (I'm sure others can chime in
>> later), but since Keystone doesn't use the email address for anything it
>> was never really considered a first class attribute. It is just something
>> we accept and return through the API. It doesn't even have its own column
>> in the database.
>>
>
> Correct, I believe this is the reason why we don't actually tie the email
> address attribute validation into jsonschema [0]. The email address
> attribute is just something that is grouped into the 'extra' attributes of
> a create user request, so it's treated similarly with jsonschema [1]. I
> remember having a few discussions around this with various people, probably
> in code review somewhere [2].
>
> I think jsonschema has built-in support that would allow us to validate
> email addresses [3]. I think that would plug in pretty naturally to what's
> already in keystone.
>
> [0]
> https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/aa8dc5c9c529c2678933c9b211b4640600e55e3a/keystone/identity/schema.py#L24-L33
> [1]
> https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/aa8dc5c9c529c2678933c9b211b4640600e55e3a/keystone/identity/schema.py#L39
>
> [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132122/6/keystone/identity/schema.py
> [3]
> http://python-jsonschema.readthedocs.org/en/latest/validate/#validating-formats
>
>
>
>> I don't like this for a variety of reasons and we do have a bug[1] for
>> fixing this. Last Thursday several of us were discussing making a database
>> column for the email address as part of the fix for that bug.
>>
>> 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1218682
>>
>> --
>> David
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>>
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