Thierry Carrez wrote:
1. "Two trips instead of one"

There is a section of attendees which benefited from a single event:
in-between people who do not generally go to any midcycle events and
successfully split their attention between the design summit and the
main conference when they were overlapping. Those people fear that in
order to keep the same benefits they will have to travel to two events
per cycle instead of one.

2. Community split

There is fear that the contributor-specific event will separate the
community into two groups, with developers skipping the main event and
non-developers not providing any feedback to the contributor-specific
event.

For those two objections, it's worth noting that there will still be a lot of strategic discussions at the main event. That is where we look at the N-1 release and start drawing plans and cross-project themes for the N+1 release. We don't need every developer there, but we still need a significant chunk of them, with every team represented, so that we can have those strategic and cross-project discussions.

Therefore I'd expect someone who wants to keep touch with development could still make only one trip, and I wouldn't expect the communities to be split. We'd still all be represented in the main event.

3. Losing the main summit as an excuse to fund devs travel

Some developers are sent to the Design Summit only because the main
summit is happening at the same time and wouldn't get funding to attend
a specific event.

If you have to pretend to attend the Summit to be able to attend the Design Summit instead, there is deception involved. I'd suggest to have a frank talk with your employer on where the most value lies for you in attending which event. We also have the Travel support program to cover the gaps.

4. The fear of US-centricity

A lot of people translated "closer to the centers of mass of
contributors" as meaning "happening in the US all the time". That would
indeed reduce the total travel costs, but at the expense of making it a
lot more costly for non-US parts of our community to participate.

That is a real concern. The goal is to "minimize and balance travel costs for existing contributors"... notice the word "balance": there would still be some continent rotation involved. The trick will be to strike the right balance between cost and fairness.

5. The loss of the midcycle spirit

Last but not least, some people really like the midcycles as they stand:
separated small events where only your small team is around. The split
appears to reduce the likelihood, the need, or the funding for such
events. Even if we keep the midcycle laid-back format in the new event,
co-locating them would turn it into a large event and we'd lose some of
the focus or some of the "only us around" aspect.

While I hope the proposed format will let us fulfill all our team socialization needs, it's true that there will be other people around, and it will feel a lot less exclusive and special. The trade-off is that having people all together encourages cross-project work and breaks silos. Hopefully we'll strike the right balance there that will let us all get most of the productivity of the current midcycles. It's also worth noting that the proposal doesn't prevent team-specific events from happening. So if for any reason people don't get what they need from the new event, I suspect we'll still have midcycles around and that will be a strong signal that we need to tweak the whole thing again.

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Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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