Ok, for what it’s worth we have contributed our migration script: 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289595/ — please look at this as a starting 
point and feel free to fix potential problems…

Thanks,
German




On 3/7/16, 11:00 AM, "Samuel Bercovici" <samu...@radware.com> wrote:

>As far as I recall, you can specify the VIP in creating the LB so you will end 
>up with same IPs.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eichberger, German [mailto:german.eichber...@hpe.com] 
>Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 8:30 PM
>To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are weready?
>
>Hi Sam,
>
>So if you have some 3rd party hardware you only need to change the database 
>(your steps 1-5) since the 3rd party hardware will just keep load balancing…
>
>Now for Kevin’s case with the namespace driver:
>You would need a 6th step to reschedule the loadbalancers with the V2 
>namespace driver — which can be done.
>
>If we want to migrate to Octavia or (from one LB provider to another) it might 
>be better to use the following steps:
>
>1. Download LBaaS v1 information (Tenants, Flavors, VIPs, Pools, Health 
>Monitors , Members) into some JSON format file(s) 2. Delete LBaaS v1 3. 
>Uninstall LBaaS v1 4. Install LBaaS v2 5. Transform the JSON format file into 
>some scripts which recreate the load balancers with your provider of choice — 
>
>6. Run those scripts
>
>The problem I see is that we will probably end up with different VIPs so the 
>end user would need to change their IPs… 
>
>Thanks,
>German
>
>
>
>On 3/6/16, 5:35 AM, "Samuel Bercovici" <samu...@radware.com> wrote:
>
>>As for a migration tool.
>>Due to model changes and deployment changes between LBaaS v1 and LBaaS v2, I 
>>am in favor for the following process:
>>
>>1. Download LBaaS v1 information (Tenants, Flavors, VIPs, Pools, Health 
>>Monitors , Members) into some JSON format file(s) 2. Delete LBaaS v1 3. 
>>Uninstall LBaaS v1 4. Install LBaaS v2 5. Import the data from 1 back 
>>over LBaaS v2 (need to allow moving from falvor1-->flavor2, need to 
>>make room to some custom modification for mapping between v1 and v2 
>>models)
>>
>>What do you think?
>>
>>-Sam.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Fox, Kevin M [mailto:kevin....@pnnl.gov]
>>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 2:06 AM
>>To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>>Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are weready?
>>
>>Ok. Thanks for the info.
>>
>>Kevin
>>________________________________________
>>From: Brandon Logan [brandon.lo...@rackspace.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 2:42 PM
>>To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
>>Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are weready?
>>
>>Just for clarity, V2 did not reuse tables, all the tables it uses are only 
>>for it.  The main problem is that v1 and v2 both have a pools resource, but 
>>v1 and v2's pool resource have different attributes.  With the way neutron 
>>wsgi works, if both v1 and v2 are enabled, it will combine both sets of 
>>attributes into the same validation schema.
>>
>>The other problem with v1 and v2 running together was only occurring when the 
>>v1 agent driver and v2 agent driver were both in use at the same time.  This 
>>may actually have been fixed with some agent updates in neutron, since that 
>>is common code.  It needs to be tested out though.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Brandon
>>
>>On Thu, 2016-03-03 at 22:14 +0000, Fox, Kevin M wrote:
>>> Just because you had thought no one was using it outside of a PoC doesn't 
>>> mean folks aren''t using it in production.
>>>
>>> We would be happy to migrate to Octavia. We were planning on doing just 
>>> that by running both v1 with haproxy namespace, and v2 with Octavia and 
>>> then pick off upgrading lb's one at a time, but the reuse of the v1 tables 
>>> really was an unfortunate decision that blocked that activity.
>>>
>>> We're still trying to figure out a path forward.
>>>
>>> We have an outage window next month. after that, it could be about 6 
>>> months before we could try a migration due to production load picking 
>>> up for a while. I may just have to burn out all the lb's switch to 
>>> v2, then rebuild them by hand in a marathon outage :/
>>>
>>> And then there's this thingy that also critically needs fixing:
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1457556
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kevin
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: Eichberger, German [german.eichber...@hpe.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 12:47 PM
>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are 
>>> weready?
>>>
>>> Kevin,
>>>
>>>  If we are offering a migration tool it would be namespace -> 
>>> namespace (or maybe Octavia since [1]) - given the limitations nobody 
>>> should be using the namespace driver outside a PoC so I am a bit 
>>> confused why customers can't self migrate. With 3rd party Lbs I would 
>>> assume vendors proving those scripts to make sure their particular 
>>> hardware works with those. If you indeed need a migration from LBaaS
>>> V1 namespace -> LBaaS V2 namespace/Octavia please file an RfE with 
>>> your use case so we can discuss it further...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> German
>>>
>>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286380
>>>
>>> From: "Fox, Kevin M" <kevin....@pnnl.gov<mailto:kevin....@pnnl.gov>>
>>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage 
>>> questions)"
>>> <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.opensta
>>> c
>>> k.org>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 5:17 PM
>>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" 
>>> <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.opensta
>>> c
>>> k.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are 
>>> weready?
>>>
>>> no removal without an upgrade path. I've got v1 LB's and there still isn't 
>>> a migration script to go from v1 to v2.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Stephen Balukoff
>>> [sbaluk...@bluebox.net<mailto:sbaluk...@bluebox.net>]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 4:49 PM
>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are 
>>> weready?
>>>
>>> I am also on-board with removing LBaaS v1 as early as possible in the 
>>> Newton cycle.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Samuel Bercovici 
>>> <samu...@radware.com<mailto:samu...@radware.com>> wrote:
>>> Thank you all for your response.
>>>
>>> In my opinion given that UI/HEAT will make Mitaka and will have one cycle 
>>> to mature, it makes sense to remove LBaaS v1 in Newton.
>>> Do we want do discuss an upgrade process in the summit?
>>>
>>> -Sam.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Bryan Jones
>>> [mailto:jone...@us.ibm.com<mailto:jone...@us.ibm.com>]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 5:54 PM
>>> To: 
>>> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstac
>>> k
>>> .org>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are 
>>> weready?
>>>
>>> And as for the Heat support, the resources have made Mitaka, with 
>>> additional functional tests on the way soon.
>>>
>>> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/lbaasv2-suport
>>> gerrit topic: 
>>> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/lbaasv2-suport
>>> BRYAN M. JONES
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>>>
>>> ----- Original message -----
>>> From: Justin Pomeroy
>>> <jpom...@linux.vnet.ibm.com<mailto:jpom...@linux.vnet.ibm.com>>
>>> To: 
>>> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstac
>>> k
>>> .org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS]Removing LBaaS v1 - are we 
>>> ready?
>>> Date: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 9:36 AM
>>>
>>> As for the horizon support, much of it will make Mitaka.  See the blueprint 
>>> and gerrit topic:
>>>
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/horizon-lbaas-v2-ui
>>> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/horizon-lbaas-v2-ui,n,z
>>>
>>> - Justin
>>>
>>> On 3/2/16 9:22 AM, Doug Wiegley wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A few things:
>>>
>>> - It's not proposed for removal in Mitaka. That patch is for Newton.
>>> - HEAT and Horizon are planned for Mitaka (see 
>>> neutron-lbaas-dashboard for the latter.)
>>> - I don't view this as a "keep or delete" question. If sufficient 
>>> folks are interested in maintaining it, there is a third option, 
>>> which is that the code can be maintained in a separate repo, by a 
>>> separate team (with or without the current core team's blessing.)
>>>
>>> No decisions have been made yet, but we are on the cusp of some major 
>>> maintenance changes, and two deprecation cycles have passed. Which path 
>>> forward is being discussed at today's Octavia meeting, or feedback is of 
>>> course welcomed here, in IRC, or anywhere.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> doug
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Samuel Bercovici 
>>> <samu...@radware.com<mailto:samu...@radware.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have just notices the following change: 
>>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286381 which aims to remove LBaaS v1.
>>> Is this planned for Mitaka or for Newton?
>>>
>>> While LBaaS v2 is becoming the default, I think that we should have the 
>>> following before we replace LBaaS v1:
>>> 1.      Horizon Support - was not able to find any real activity on it
>>> 2.      HEAT Support - will it be ready in Mitaka?
>>>
>>> Do you have any other items that are needed before we get rid of LBaaS v1?
>>>
>>> -Sam.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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