----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Perez" <[email protected]>
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List" <[email protected]>
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I've been talking to a variety of projects about lack of install guides. This
> came from me not having a great experience with trying out projects in the
> big
> tent.
> 
> Projects like Manila have proposed install docs [1], but they were rejected
> by the install docs team because it's not in defcore. One of Manila's goals
> of
> getting these docs accepted is to apply for the operators tag
> ops:docs:install-guide [2] so that it helps their maturity level in the
> project
> navigator [3].
> 
> Adrian Otto expressed to me having the same issue for Magnum. I think it's
> funny that a project that gets keynote time at the OpenStack conference can't
> be in the install docs personally.

Just two minor clarifications here:

* Manila install docs are actively being worked on for inclusion in the Mitaka 
version of the guide: 
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/doc/install-guide/source/manila.rst

* Magnum install docs were only very recently proposed here - 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288580/ - nobody is saying they can't be in 
the install guide assuming someone is willing to write/maintain them, but until 
now it wasn't clear anyone was.

I certainly think a better system for linking out-of-tree install docs for big 
tent projects would be worth pursuing, but regardless of where it lives someone 
still has to write/maintain that user-orientated content. For those that have 
someone actively doing this on an ongoing basis they already have a path to 
inclusion in the guide (or at least, it seems that way based on the cases I am 
familiar with like those above).

Are there examples of projects that have this user orientated install 
documentation written but are actively being rejected from including it in the 
install guide (in the Magnum case it has been pushed out to Newton as it was a 
late submission, not rejected permanently)?

-Steve

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