Egads, that’s a long subject prefix.  Anyways, we had a design session on the 
future of the advanced services:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-future-adv-services

In a nutshell, vpn and fw are critically lacking active contributors at 
present. Again. A proposal was made to remove them from the neutron stadium, 
effectively making them the equivalent of stackforge projects (openstack 
experimental in the new terminology.)  This was rejected in favor of giving 
them until Ocata-1 to retain stadium status, similar to the criteria laid out 
in the later neutron stadium discussion:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-community-stadium-evolution

Given how often we’ve extended the lives of those two repos by yet another six 
months, this time we’ll be looking for regular progress up to ocata-1, with 
final criteria being done (ish) by then. But, as agreed at the summit, if 
things go utterly dark post-summit, then you can expect to see governance 
patches to remove them from the stadium much faster than Ocata-1.

After that session, but worth mentioning here, further discussions led to a 
proposal to make lbaas a standalone project, with a standalone endpoint, but 
adopting the current API:

https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310805/
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310667/

and here’s a WIP governance patch for flavor:

https://review.openstack.org/313056

This achieved broad consensus among those present for the follow-up 
conversations (-1 nits on that patch aside), but please comment on any of those 
if you have comments/concerns.

Next steps:

- Monitor progress of vpn and fw.
- Cleanup lbaas spinout specs, generate a timeline for minimum work required.

Thanks,
doug



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