Hi Alexey,

This use case sounds interesting. To be clarified it, I have a question.

On 2016/05/10 0:17, Weyl, Alexey (Nokia - IL) wrote:
Hi Tim,

I agree – creating a datasource from Vitrage to Congress is the first
step, and we should have some concrete use case in mind to help guide
this process.

The most straightforward use case I would suggest is when there is a
problem on an instance that is caused by some problem on the physical
host. Then:

·Vitrage will notify about an alarm on the instance, which Congress will
receive

Why does Congress need to receive the alarm? DataSouce Driver pulls data from Vitrage, so it looks like Congress should only pull the cause of the failure from Vitrage.

Best regards,
Masahito

·Congress can then call the Vitrage RCA API. The response will state
that the cause of the instance alarm is the host alarm.

·Congress policy can define that in such a case, the instance should be
migrated to (or healed on) a different physical host

Does this seem like a good first step for you?

Thanks,

Alexey

*From:*Tim Hinrichs [mailto:t...@styra.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, May 07, 2016 2:43 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [vitrage] [congress] Vitrage-Congress
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Hi Alexey,

Thanks for the overview of how you see a Congress-Vitrage integration
being valuable.

I'd imagine that the right first step in this integration would be
creating a new datasource driver within Congress to pull data from
Vitrage.  It doesn't need to pull all the data in your list to start,
but enough so that we can try writing policy over that data.  It's
helpful to have a policy in mind that you want to write and then set up
the datasource driver to grab enough of the Vitrage data to write that
policy.  Here are the relevant docs.

Datasource drivers

http://docs.openstack.org/developer/congress/cloudservices.html

Writing policy

http://docs.openstack.org/developer/congress/policy.html

Let me know if you have any questions,

Tim

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:51 PM Weyl, Alexey (Nokia - IL)
<alexey.w...@nokia.com <mailto:alexey.w...@nokia.com>> wrote:

    Hi to all Vitrage and Congress contributors,

    We had a good introduction meeting in Austin and we (Vitrage) think
    that we can have a good collaboration between the projects.

    Vitrage, as an Openstack Root Cause Analysis (RCA) Engine, builds a
    topology graph of all the entities in the system (physical, virtual
    and application) from different datasources. It thus can enrich
    Congress by providing more data about what is happening in the
    system. Additionally, the Vitrage RCA and deduce alarms & states
    mechanism can enhance the visibility of faults and how they
    inter-relate.  By using this information Congress could then execute
    different policies and perform more accurate actions.

    Another good property of Vitrage is that it can receive data also
    from non-openstack sources, like Nagios, which monitor the physical
    resources, including Switches (which are not modeled today in
    OpenStack).

    There are many ways in which Congress-Vitrage combination would be
    helpful. To take just one example:
    a. If a physical Switch is down, Vitrage can raise deduced alarms on
    the connected hosts and on the virtual machines affected by this
    change in switch state.
    b. Congress will then be notified by Vitrage about these alarms,
    which can set off Congress policies of migration.
    c. Furthermore, due to the RCA functionality, Congress will be aware
    that the Switch error is the source of the problem, and can
    determine the best place to create new instances of the VMs so that
    this  switch fault will not impact the new instances.

    As you can see, for each fault, we can use Vitrage to link it to
    other faults, and create alarms to reflect them. This is all done
    via Vitrage Templates, so the system is configurable to the needs of
    the user. Thus many more cases such as the example above could be
    thought of.

    To summarize, Vitrage can enrich Congress with the following four
    features:
    a. RCA
    b. Deduced alarms
    c. Physical, virtual and application layers
    d. Graph structure and topology of the system that defines the
    connections and relationships between all entities on which we can
    run quick graph algorithms to decide different actions to perform

    If you can think of additional use cases that can be used here,
    please share ☺

    For more data about Vitrage and its insights please take a look here:
    https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Vitrage

    Best Regards,
    Alexey Weyl

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