On 12/05/16 21:41 -0400, Nikhil Komawar wrote:
I have been of the same opinion as far as upgrades go.

I think we are stepping ahead of ourselves here a bit. We need to figure out
the rolling upgrade story first and see if registry is actually useful or not
there as well.

I kinda disagree, tbh. We can have a glance-api service that can be upgraded
with no downtimes without the need of a registry service.

The feedback from operator sessions also indicated that some ops do use it that
way ( http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-May/094034.html
).

Overall, I do think registry is a bit of overhead and it would be nice to
actually deprecate it but we do need facts/technical research first.

On 5/12/16 9:20 PM, Sam Morrison wrote:

   We find glance registry quite useful. Have a central glance-registry api is 
useful when you have multiple datacenters all with glance-apis and talking back 
to a central registry service. I guess they could all talk back to the central 
DB server but currently that would be over the public Internet for us. Not 
really an issue, we can work around it.

   The major thing that the registry has given us has been rolling upgrades. We 
have been able to upgrade our registry first then one by one upgrade our API 
servers (we have about 15 glance-apis)

I'm curious to know how you did this upgrade, though. Did you shutdown your
registry nodes, upgraded the database and then re-started them? Did you upgraded
one registry node at a time?

I'm asking because, as far as I can tell, the strategy you used for upgrading
the registry nodes is the one you would use to upgrade the glance-api nodes
today. Shutting down all registry nodes would live you with unusable glance-api
nodes anyway so I'd assume you did a partial upgrade or something similar to
that.

Thanks a bunch for your feedback,
Flavio

   I don’t think we would’ve been able to do that if all the glance-apis were 
talking to the DB, (At least not in glance’s current state)

   Sam





       On 12 May 2016, at 1:51 PM, Flavio Percoco <fla...@redhat.com> wrote:

       Greetings,

       The Glance team is evaluating the needs and usefulness of the Glance 
Registry
       service and this email is a request for feedback from the overall 
community
       before the team moves forward with anything.

       Historically, there have been reasons to create this service. Some 
deployments
       use it to hide database credentials from Glance public endpoints, others 
use it
       for scaling purposes and others because v1 depends on it. This is a good 
time
       for the team to re-evaluate the need of these services since v2 doesn't 
depend
       on it.

       So, here's the big question:

       Why do you think this service should be kept around?

       Summit etherpad: 
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-glance-registry-deprecation

       Flavio
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