Doug Wiegley wrote:
So I'd argue that you need both. You need the TC whenever a hard call has to be 
made, but in order to minimize the number of those hard calls (and favor 
consensus building) you also need working groups to build a bottom-up 
reasonable way forward.

This reads very strange to me, as I’d expect a group of technical leaders to 
both make hard calls *and* to be able to build consensus on overall direction 
and vision. They’re two sides of the same coin. What is it about our process 
that means the TC can’t build consensus on direction, but can only impose its 
will? I expect you didn’t mean it to sound that way, though. Is the workload 
too high on the bookkeeping to prevent the vision building?

Some TC members definitely have the time (and will, and experience) to work on architecture definition. A number of TC members (including Jay, Robert and myself) actually called for an "architecture workgroup" within the TC (the same way we have a communications workgroup, or a project team guide documentation workgroup) for some time now, but it never fully formed. One of the reasons is that we are all very busy and were all waiting for someone else to start it up. At the same time, I see no reason to limit that workgroup to TC members. There are other people interested. The two groups don't have to be mutually exclusive.

So I'm very happy that Clint picked up the ball where we left it. I expect TC members to participate in the group.

[...]
Don’t get me wrong, I welcome this initiative. I find it mildly disconcerting 
that the folks that I thought we were electing to fill this role will instead 
be filled by others, but the vacuum does need to be filled, and I thank Clint 
for stepping up.

And I don't see why architecture should be the reserved domain of precisely 13 people. We are electing the TC to make final calls where needed. Not to be the only people that are allowed to work on architecture. For that, an open workgroup sounds a thousand times better.

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Thierry Carrez (ttx)

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