On 07/27/2016 05:51 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote:
Its a standard way of launching a given openstack service container with 
specified config regardless if its backed with a redhat or ubuntu or source 
based package set that the Operator can rely on having a standardized interface 
to. distro packages don't grantee that kind of thing and don't want to.

To me, its an abstraction api kind of like nova is to kvm vs xen. the nova user 
shouldn't have to care which backend is chosen.

I can tell this conversation isn't going anywhere and we're not going to agree, so let's just agree to disagree.

Best,
-jay

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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Kolla] [Fuel] [tc] Looks like Mirantis is getting 
Fuel CCP (docker/k8s) kicked off

On 07/27/2016 04:42 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:
On Jul 27, 2016, at 2:42 PM, Fox, Kevin M <kevin....@pnnl.gov> wrote:

Its not an "end user" facing thing, but it is an "operator" facing thing.

Well, the end user for Kolla is an operator, no?

I deploy kolla containers today on non kolla managed systems in production, and 
rely on that api being consistent.

I'm positive I'm not the only operator doing this either. This sounds like a 
consumable api to me.

I don’t think that an API has to be RESTful to be considered an interface for 
we should avoid duplication.

Application *Programming* Interface. There's nothing that is being
*programmed* or *called* in Kolla's image definitions.

What Kolla is/has is not an API. As Stephen said, it's more of an
Application Binary Interface (ABI). It's not really an ABI, though, in
the traditional sense of the term that I'm used to.

It's an agreed set of package bases, installation procedures/directories
and configuration recipes for OpenStack and infrastructure components.

I see no reason for the OpenStack community to standardize on those
things, frankly. It's like asking RedHat and Canonical to agree to "just
use RPM" as their package specification format. I wonder how that
conversation would go.

Best,
-jay

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