On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Anita Kuno <ante...@anteaya.info> wrote:
> On 2016-10-11 01:40 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: > >> On Oct 11, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Anita Kuno <ante...@anteaya.info> wrote: >> >> There really needs to be a period when a) we know who all the candidates >>>> are, and b) voting has not yet begun. >>>> >>> Why? >>> >>> The voting period is open for a period of several days, voters have the >>> ability to vote at any time during that voting period. >>> >> Because many people vote as soon as they receive their ballot. >> > > That is their choice. > > Anita, I agree, that voters may choose to refrain from voting. I don't hear anyone saying "people *can not* make time for thoughtful reflection on the candidates" - but suggestion that perhaps they *did not*? Is there anyway we could get numbers about how many voters waited until the end of week like I did? If most voters did wait until later in the week, I think we can reject the premise as false and accept that the week while voting is open *is* the time in the process that most of the electorate uses for reflection on the candidates. If many *did* vote early in the week before some policy/platform points were discussed one might even assume these voters have some remorse - perhaps they will behave differently next time? Not known. OTOH, if we actively broadcast a period of time with the expressed purpose of facilitating this discussion I think it sends a message that we as a community expect this discussion to happen and have an impact on the results of the election. Is there a *downside* to a 3 week election period as proposed by Ed, Chris and others? -Clay > I know that I typically do so that it doesn’t get lost under the flood >> of email. >> > > I have found putting a star on the email when it comes it helps to ensure > I don't lose it, but everyone has a different email organizing workflow. > > This wouldn’t be so bad if you could later change your vote, but once it >> is cast, it can’t be changed. What that means is that if a candidate I knew >> little about says something that either interests me or turns me off, I can >> *use* that information. >> > > You still can now, you just have to choose to listen to candidates prior > to voting. > > Monty suggested somewhere that we reissue the email ballots everyday > (since we had email issues this time, I have no idea if that would result > in us being kicked off the service we currently use or not). If the issue > is, I want to ensure I can find my ballot when I need it, I think we can > explore options that don't include requiring election officials to expand > their commitment for an additional week. > > >> A voter can ask the panel of candidates any question they wish such that >>> they are satisfied prior to voting. >>> >> Of course; no one has said otherwise. But if someone else asks a question >> that may not have occurred to me to ask, the answers given can still be >> influential on my choices. Look at Gordon Chung’s question in this recent >> cycle: I’m sure that there were lots of people who benefited from that >> question and the many answers, not just Gordon. >> > > I know I benefited from Gord's question, both as a candidate and as a > voter. Thank you, Gord. > > Again, I feel the choice exists. > > >> Additionally should the decision be made to go forward with some form of >>> the candidate answers as I offered to the electorate in October 2014, those >>> answers could be available as platforms are posted such that all responses >>> are available as soon as the poll begins. >>> >> I think that this is a great idea, and would be willing to help in the >> effort to make that happen again. >> > > Thanks Ed, it felt satisfying to offer it when I did it. I hope others > feel the same as you. > > Thanks, > Anita. > > > >> >> -- Ed Leafe >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> ______________ >> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) >> Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscrib >> e >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >
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