Hi Jay, Thank you for your comments.
2016-11-14 2:19 GMT+09:00 Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com>: > On 11/13/2016 01:52 AM, Akira Yoshiyama wrote: >> >> Hi Jay, >> >> 2016-11-13 3:12 GMT+09:00 Jay Pipes <jaypi...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> On 11/12/2016 09:31 AM, Akira Yoshiyama wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Stackers, >>>> >>>> In TripleO, Ironic provides physical servers for an OpenStack >>>> deployment but we have to configure physical storages manually, or >>>> with any tool, if required. It's better that an OpenStack service >>>> manages physical storages as same as Ironic for servers. >>>> >>>> IMO, there are 2 plans to manage physical storages: >>> >>> >>> When you say "manage physical storage" are you referring to configuring >>> something like Ceph or GlusterFS or even NFS on a bunch of baremetal >>> servers? >> >> >> No. "physical storages" means storage products like EMC VNX, NetApp >> Data ONTAP, HPE Lefthand and so on. >> Say there is a new service named X to manage them. A user, he/she will >> be a new IaaS admin, requests many baremetal servers to Ironic and >> some baremetal storages to X. After they are provided, he/she will >> start to build a new OpenStack deployment with them. Nova in the new >> one will provide VMs on the servers and Cinder will manage logical >> volumes on the storages. X doesn't manage each logical volume but >> pools, user accounts and network connections of the storages. > > > Yeah, I personally believe that is the domain of configuration management > systems not OpenStack HTTP API services. What you are describing is not a > multi-tenant HTTP API service, it's an IT/storage admin automation tool. > > Incidentally, Ironic isn't multi-tenant either. It lives in the weird land > in OpenStack of being an HTTP API service that isn't meant for "normal > users" so in order to provider a cloud service (BareMetal-as-a-Service), > Ironic *requires* Nova to provide the multi-tenancy aspects of the > "as-a-Service" part of the software. Hmm... so, if I built a (multi-tenant) baremetal IaaS service like SoftLayer with OpenStack Newton release, tenant users can deploy an OpenStack environment with cinder using SDS on it. No physical storages. > Ironic is great, of course, but it ain't a cloud service without help from > Nova. > > Best, > -jay BR, Akira
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