On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 01:16:13AM +0800, Jeffrey Zhang wrote: > TC > , > > Some contributors in kolla have had unscheduled video meetings. This has > resulted in complaints about inclusiveness. Some contributors can’t even > make > the meeting we have, and another scheduled video meeting might produce a > situation in which there is no any record of decisions made during the video > meeting. At least with IRC meetings there is always a log. > > One solution is to schedule these meetings and have two 1 hour meetings per > week. > > As the PTL while Michal is moving, I have trouble following these video > meetings since English isn’t my native language. Can you offer any advice > for > our project? >
Well one of is 4 opens open community specifically calls out having official meetings over irc. [1] It's also a requirement for OpenStack projects to have meetings on irc where they're logged. [2] If these video meetings are being used to make decisions and there is no discussion of it in on the ML or via an official irc meeting then that's a problem. (for the reasons you've outlined) This basic topic was also discussed before in the thread starting here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-February/056551.html As Flavio said there I don't think we can (or should?) prevent people from having ad-hoc calls or video chats to work through an issue. They can be quite valuable to work through a disagreement or other problem with high bandwidth communication. But, that by itself should never be definitive discussion or used in lieu of an open communication mechanism to make decisions in the community. Whatever is discussed in these has to go through the normal open communication mechanisms we use in the community before you can act upon them. I'm not really familiar with the full scope of these video meetings Kolla is having (this is the first I've heard of them) but based on your description it sounds like they are encroaching on violating the open community requirement for projects. I think this is especially true if you're using the video meetings as a replacement for irc meetings. But, without knowing all the details I can't say for certain. -Matt Treinish [1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/opens.html#open-community [2] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/new-projects-requirements.html
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