On 10/03/2014 03:07 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote:
Hey Tom and operators,

Just wanted to say I volunteered to organize/drive the log
rationalization effort.  I'm glad to see it on the Operators' schedule
and added it to the working group schedule.  I should have more info out
and better organized by the summit. I've already got a volunteer or
two;-)  The etherpad I started is:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Log-Rationalization

and I also put the link under the working group area of the Tom's etherpad.

Please, everyone, I'm looking for:

·short term reduction of pain points (where would some focus on format,
content and/or levels during Kilo help the most?)

·Longer term: standards, automated verification through git review
(hacking, etc), review list additions, etc.

·Volunteers:  specifications, bugs, documentation, coding, repairing code

And I want to say folks, I feel your pain.  I come from a QA and
operations background in large, mission critical, distributed systems
and logs have always been my best friends **and** the bane of my
existence when they don’t have what you need.  I get it.  I want to help
fix it.

I'm also looking forward to cleaning up the logging in OpenStack projects.

May I suggest on the etherpad that we take an approach of listing *specific* log messages that we (devs doing debugging and operators doing diagnostics/operations) find less than useful?

I think if we keep the etherpad focused on specific log messages, we can then start to identify:

 * changes to those log messages (structure, level, audience, payload, etc)
* log message "archetypes" that we can then use to generalize into best practice documentation on the wiki (to add to what is already there [1])

Does this sound like a reasonable approach?

-jay

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LoggingStandards

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