Steven Dake (stdake) wrote:

On 5/12/16, 2:04 PM, "Joshua Harlow"<harlo...@fastmail.com>  wrote:

Hi there all-ye-operators,

I am investigating how to help move godaddy from rpms to a
container-like solution (virtualenvs, lxc, or docker...) and a set of
questions that comes up is the following (and I would think that some
folks on this mailing list may have some useful insight into the answers):

* Have you done the transition?

* How did the transition go?

* Was/is kolla used or looked into? or something custom?

* How long did it take to do the transition from a package based
solution (with say puppet/chef being used to deploy these packages)?

   * Follow-up being how big was the team to do this?

I know I am not an operator, but to respond on this particular point
related to the Kolla question above, I think the team size could be very
small and still effective.  You would want 24 hour coverage of your data
center, and a backup individual, which puts the IC list at 4 people. (3 8
hour shifts + 1 backup in case of illness/etc).  Expect for these folks to
require other work, as once Kolla is deployed there isn't a whole lot to
do.  A 64 node cluster is deployable by one individual in 1-2 hours once
the gear has been racked.  Realistically if you plan to deploy Kolla I'd
expect that individual to want to train for 3-6 weeks deploying over and
over to get a feel for the Kolla workflow.  Try it, I suspect you will
like it :)

Thanks for the info and/or estimates, but before I dive to far in I have a question. I see that the following has links to how the different services run under kolla:

http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/#kolla-services

But one that seems missing from this list is what I would expect to be the more complicated one, that being nova-compute (and libvirt and kvm). Are there any secret docs on that (since I would assume it'd be the most problematic to get right)?


If you had less rigorous constraints around availability then I'd expect
Godaddy to have, a Kolla deployment could likely be managed with as little
as half a person or less.  Everything including upgrades is automated.


Along this line, do people typically plug the following into a local jenkins system?

http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/quickstart.html#building-container-images

Any docs on how people typically incorporate jenkins into the kolla workflow (I assume they do?) anywhere?

Regards
-steve

* What was the roll-out strategy to achieve the final container solution?

Any other feedback (and/or questions that I missed)?

Thanks,

Josh

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