pvo,

Yep.  I'm responding to the slide having "3 services, 5 endpoints" (nova, 
glance, swift)

Since the number of endpoints will depend on deployment configuration.

And nova being a single repository doesn't mean it is a single service.

Jesse

On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Paul Voccio wrote:

> Jesse,
> 
> I agree that some implementations can want to have a single endpoint. I think 
> this is doable with a simple proxy that can pass requests back to each 
> service apis. This can also be accomplished by having configuration variables 
> in your bindings to talk to something that looks like the following:
> 
> compute=api.compute.example.com
> volume=api.volume.example.com
> image=api.image.example.com
> network=api.network.example.com
> 
> Or for behind the proxies:
> 
> compute=api.example.com
> volume=api.example.com
> image=api.example.com
> network=api.example.com
> 
> Maybe this is something the auth services return?
> 
> 
> From: Jesse Andrews <[email protected]>
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:53:01 -0800
> To: Erik Carlin <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API for Cactus (critical!)
> 
>> I'm also confused because nova (compute/block/network) is in 1 repository 
>> doesn't mean it isn't 3 different services.
>> 
>> We've talked about moving the services inside nova to not reaching inside of 
>> each other via RPC calls and instead making HTTP calls.  But they are mostly 
>> already designed in a way that allows them to operate independantly.
>> 
>> And I would also say that while rackspace may deploy with 3 endpoints, 
>> openstack might want to deploy multiple services behind a single endpoint.
>> 
>> Jesse
>> 
>> On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Erik Carlin wrote:
>> 
>>> I was talking with Will Reese about this more.  If we are eventually going 
>>> to decompose into independent services with separate endpoints, he thought 
>>> we should do that now.  I like that idea better.  For cactus, we still have 
>>> a single nova service "black box" but we put multiple OpenStack API 
>>> endpoints on the front side, one for each future service.  In other words, 
>>> use separate endpoints instead of extensions in a single endpoint to expose 
>>> the current capabilities.  That way, it sets us on the right path and 
>>> consumers don't have to refactor to support between cactus and diable.  In 
>>> diablo, we decompose into separate services and the endpoints move with 
>>> them.  It's a bit hard to visualize so I put together the attached pdf.  
>>> I'm assuming glance is a separate service and endpoint for cactus (still 
>>> need to figure out per my message below) and swift already is.
>>> 
>>> Erik 
>>> 
>>> From: Erik Carlin <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:07:22 -0600
>>> To: John Purrier <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API for Cactus (critical!)
>>> 
>>> That all sounds good.  My only question is around images.  Is glance ready 
>>> to be an independent service (and thus have a separate API) in Cactus?
>>> 
>>> Erik
>>> 
>>> From: John Purrier <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:53:53 -0600
>>> To: Erik Carlin <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: RE: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API for Cactus (critical!)
>>> 
>>> Hi Erik, today we have compute, block/volume, and network all encompassed 
>>> in nova. Along with image and object storage these make the whole of 
>>> OpenStack today. The goal is to see where we are at wrt the OpenStack API 
>>> (compute/network/volume/image) and coverage of the underlying 
>>> implementation as well as what is available through the EC2 API today.
>>>  
>>> I would propose that volume and network API’s be exposed not through the 
>>> core compute API, but as extensions. Once we create separate services and 
>>> factor network and volume services out of nova these API’s will form the 
>>> core API’s for these services. We may also need to up-version these service 
>>> API’s between Cactus and Diablo as they are currently under heavy 
>>> discussion and design.
>>>  
>>> John
>>>  
>>> From: Erik Carlin [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:16 PM
>>> To: John Purrier; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API for Cactus (critical!)
>>>  
>>> John -
>>>  
>>> Are we just talking about compute aspects?  IMO, we should NOT be exposing 
>>> block functionality in the OS compute API.  In Diablo, we will break out 
>>> block into a separate service with it's own OS block API.  That means for 
>>> now, there may be functionality in nova that isn't exposed (an artifact of 
>>> originally mimicing EC2) until we can fully decompose nova into independent 
>>> services.
>>>  
>>> Erik   
>>>  
>>> From: John Purrier <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:16:20 -0600
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: [Openstack] OpenStack Compute API for Cactus (critical!)
>>>  
>>> Has anyone done a gap analysis against the proposed OpenStack Compute API 
>>> and a) the implemented code, and b) the EC2 API?
>>>  
>>> It looks like we have had a breakdown in process, as the community review 
>>> process of the proposed spec has not generated discussion of the missing 
>>> aspects of the proposed spec.
>>>  
>>> Here is what we said on Feb 3 as the goal for Cactus:
>>>  
>>> OpenStack Compute API completed. We need to complete a working set of API's 
>>> that are consistent and inclusive of all the exposed functionality.
>>>  
>>> We need to *very* quickly identify the missing elements that are required 
>>> in the OpenStack Compute API, and then discuss how we mobilize to get this 
>>> work done for Cactus. As this is the #1 priority for this release there are 
>>> implications on milestones dates depending on the results of this exercise. 
>>> The 1.1 spec should be complete and expose all current Nova functionality 
>>> (superset of EC2/RS).
>>>  
>>> Dendrobates, please take the lead on this, anyone who can help please 
>>> coordinate with Rick. Can we get a fairly complete view by EOD tomorrow? 
>>> Please set up a wiki page to identify the gaps, I suggest 3 columns (Actual 
>>> code / EC2 / OpenStack Compute).
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>>  
>>> John
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