2011/3/31 Todd Willey <[email protected]>: > I haven't disagreed with those points. I'm not advocating the removal > of blueprints or changing the way we select release goals. I only > don't want to be so strict that we push back against our users instead > of being their allies.
I've said this before, but I think it bears repeating: If this were about patches from "outsiders", i.e. people who are new to the project and hence couldn't be reasonably expected to be acquainted with our release process, I'd feel much less strongly about. The patches and features in question came from regulars. Core (or should-be-core) developers. If we can't even be bothered to follow our own procedures, how can we tell anyone else to? If we really care about "pushing back against our users", we should be leading by example, and holding ourselves to an even higher standard than we expect from everyone else. > * Let's all be nice to our user-contributors I don't think it's nice of us to say, "these are the rules of the project. We expect you to follow them." and then go and apply a different set of rules to ourselves. I have a couple of feature branches myself that I specifically decided not to propose. I could have had them done early last week, so after BMPF, but before FF, but I simply cannot keep a straight face while * spending time working on feature patches after BMPF, * proposing feature patches after BMPF, and * telling other people not to do any of these things. ...all at the same time. What I *do* think is nice, is to favour the users that actually did as we told them to and focus on reviewing their stuff and helping them get things in shape instead of spending time adding more features to an already frozen tree. I'm not even sure we made good on our promise to review everything that was proposed in time for branch merge proposal freeze. I sure hope so, but honestly haven't checked. -- Soren Hansen Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com/ OpenStack Developer http://www.openstack.org/ _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

