On Feb 14, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > -1 on shard b/c of database terminology. -1 on cluster because of HPC and > database terminology. > > Zone was originally used because it is general -- referring to merely a > collection of hosts or other zones and not having a geographic connotation > like Region does. > > Other possibilities: > > * Container (not recommended, as it is overloaded with Solaris or Linux > container virtualization) > * ServerGroup > * HostGroup > * Group > * Collection
- Set - Cell - Huddle - Constellation - Herd/Flock//Pod/Animal metaphor of choice. - System > If Zone isn't used, I suppose I would prefer ServerGroup > > -jay > > On 02/13/2012 08:45 PM, Yun Mao wrote: >> agreed.. >> >> -1 on shard, +1 on cluster >> >> Yun >> >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Martin Paulo<[email protected]> wrote: >>> Please not 'shards' >>> Sharding as a concept is so intertwined with databases IMHO that it >>> will serve to confuse even more. Why not 'cluster'? >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> On 13 February 2012 09:50, Chris Behrens<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Sorry, I'm late. Really getting down to the wire here. :) >>>> >>>> I've thrown up a version here: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4062 >>>> >>>> I've not functionally tested it yet, but there's really good test coverage >>>> for the zones service itself. I also have added a test_compute_zones >>>> which tests that all of the compute tests pass while using the new >>>> ComputeZonesAPI class. >>>> >>>> There's a couple bugs I note in the review and then I think I'm missing >>>> pushing some instance updates to the top in libvirt code. And missing an >>>> update for instance deletes in the compute manager. Going to hit those up >>>> today and finish this off. >>>> >>>> One other comment: It's been suggested we not call this stuff 'Zones' >>>> anymore. It gets confused with availability zones and so forth. Since >>>> this is really a way to shard nova, it has been suggested to call this >>>> 'Shards'. :) Not sure I dig that name completely, although it makes >>>> sense. Thoughts? >>>> >>>> - Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 9, 2012, at 10:29 AM, Leandro Reox wrote: >>>> >>>>> Awesome Chrisssss !!! >>>>> >>>>> Lean >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Alejandro >>>>> Comisario<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Niceee !! >>>>> >>>>> Alejandro. >>>>> >>>>> On 02/09/2012 02:02 PM, Chris Behrens wrote: >>>>>> I should be pushing something up by end of day... Even if it's not >>>>>> granted an FFE, I'll have a need to keep my branch updated and working, >>>>>> so I should at least always have a branch pushed up to a github account >>>>>> somewhere until F1 opens up. So, I guess worst case... there'll be a >>>>>> branch somewhere for you to play with. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> - Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 8, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just raising another deployment waiting on this new Zone implementation >>>>>>> - we currently have 2000 cores sitting idle in another datacentre that >>>>>>> we can use "better" if this is done. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How can we help? ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 02/08/2012 07:30 PM, Ziad Sawalha wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We were working on providing the necessary functionality in Keystone >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> stopped when we heard of the alternative solution. We could resume the >>>>>>>> conversation about what is needed on the Keystone side and implement if >>>>>>>> needed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Z >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Sandy Walsh< >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:49:58 +0000 >>>>>>>> To: Joshua McKenty< >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> , Vishvananda Ishaya >>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cc: " >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>"<[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Understood, timing is everything. I'll let Chris talk about expected >>>>>>>> timing for the replacement. From a deployers side, nothing would really >>>>>>>> change, just some configuration options ... but a replacement should be >>>>>>>> available. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm sure we could get it working pretty easily. The Keystone >>>>>>>> integration >>>>>>>> was the biggest pita. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can keep this branch fresh with trunk for when we're ready to pull >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> trigger. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -S >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> *From:* Joshua McKenty [ >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>> ] >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 4:45 PM >>>>>>>> *To:* Vishvananda Ishaya >>>>>>>> *Cc:* Sandy Walsh; >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] Remove Zones code - FFE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1 to Vish's points. I know there are some folks coming online in the >>>>>>>> Folsom timeline that can help out with the new stuff, but this feels a >>>>>>>> bit like going backwards. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Joshua McKenty, CEO >>>>>>>> Piston Cloud Computing, Inc. >>>>>>>> w: (650) 24-CLOUD >>>>>>>> m: (650) 283-6846 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.pistoncloud.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Oh, Westley, we'll never survive!" >>>>>>>> "Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am all for pulling this out, but I'm a bit concerned with the fact >>>>>>>>> that we have nothing to replace it with. There are some groups still >>>>>>>>> trying to use it. MercadoLibre is trying to use it for example. I know >>>>>>>>> you guys are trying to replace this with something better, but it >>>>>>>>> would be nice not to break people for 7+ months >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I guess I have some questions: >>>>>>>>> 1.a) is the current implementation completely broken? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1.b) if yes, is it fixable >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2) If we do remove this, what can we tell people that need something >>>>>>>>> like zones between now and the Folsom release? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Vish >>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Sandy Walsh wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As part of the new (and optional) Zones code coming down the pipe, >>>>>>>>>> part of this is to remove the old Zones implementation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> More info in the merge prop: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://review.openstack.org/#change,3629 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So, can I? can I? 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