+1 to everything dean said. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Dean Troyer <dtro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Andrew Clay Shafer > <a...@parvuscaptus.com> wrote: > > You say OpenStack has survived, but I believe we may have compounded and > > multiplied the challenges OpenStack faces by collectively neglecting to > > resolve this. Without going into all the technical necessity and > political > > complexity, I would argue we allowed OpenStack fragmentation at the > project > > level. Without a unified conscience of purpose, the fragmentation only > gets > > magnified at the point users are interacting with different deployments. > > This fragmentation with projects and goals is a real threat to the > long-term viability of OpenStack as a cloud standard. > > > I don't believe that the kernel is a perfect analogy, but even if it was > > this one sentence 'OpenStack is like the Linux kernel' will not make it > so. > > Honestly, I HATE this analogy. OpenStack has no BDFL, it has now a > foundation that is governed by Corporate interests that have a history > of working on common standards and tweaking them to add 'value' > ('differentiation' I think is the buzzword for that). The > organization of the foundation is partially designed to prevent any > one or two of these interests from pushing the whole in their > particular direction. The foundation will have to prove itself > capable of pulling the projects forward. Together. > > > What is the OpenStack equivalent of this? > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/3/8/495 > > The problem we have is that people in Linus' position are not created, > they grow and the position, respect and authority is earned. The TC > may be able to earn some of that over time, but without unifying > leadership it will be tough going. Hopefully their separation from > the rest of the board can give them a chance to provide the technical > leadership and direction needed even if it stubs a few toes along the > way. > > It kills me that the acronym for OpenStack Foundation is OSF. While I > don't think we can really be the Linux of the cloud any time soon, we > will have to really work to NOT be the UNIX of the cloud... > > dt > > -- > > Dean Troyer > dtro...@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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