On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Monty Taylor <mord...@inaugust.com> wrote:
> > > On 05/11/2013 04:07 PM, Asher Newcomer wrote: > > Or even better, just continue to call it openstack networking. The code > > names only serve to confuse the uninitiated. They needlessly steepen the > > learning curve and slow uptake. > > The problem with OpenStack Networking (or getting rid of codenames) is > seen with pre-incubation->incubation->integrated cycle. > > A project cannot call itself "OpenStack Foo" until it actually _is_ > openstack foo. So any new project by necessity has to start off as > something else. > > But - if we then require them to drop that name and become openstack foo > when they become incubated or integrated, then we've got what's become a > stable project with a decent amount of contributors renaming itself. > > Every. Time. > > The code names aren't just cute. I kind of wish they were, because it > would make several things much easier if we could just ditch them and do > a pure openstack. code namespace. But the reality is that it gets really > really tricky to deal with a bunch of things if they go away. > I told Monty and the TC this at the Summit (sorry I couldn't attend the session about code names). I find this trickiness a weak argument in the face of the invented names that are getting to be as bad as U.S. pharmaceuticals. Plus it forces us to put a "lookup" table in the docs forever. [1] Let's find a process for naming that meets a few reqs: - describes the service - goes through a legal review - enables new eyes to understanding it by reading the English word that the service represents (that can be translated into a meaningful word in other languages) If we have to preface with Stackforge to indicate pre-incubation, that's fine. Use Incubating or some such to indicate incubation. Meaningful words have meaning. I acknowledge we still have to indicate what commands, daemon names, and so on are related to a particular service. That issue is also fixable with some resources and effort and pays off in easier adoption and understanding. Anne 1. http://docs.openstack.org/grizzly/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/terminology-codenames.html > > > On May 11, 2013 3:59 PM, "Davanum Srinivas" <dava...@gmail.com > > <mailto:dava...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Lattice > > > > -- dims > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Mark Turner <m...@amerine.net > > <mailto:m...@amerine.net>> wrote: > > > Tubes > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jason Smith > > <jason.sm...@rackspace.com <mailto:jason.sm...@rackspace.com>> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hello, > > >> I understand why we had to give up Quantum code name but rather > > than just > > >> refer to it as networking let's come up with a new code name! > > >> > > >> Thoughts? > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> -js > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > >> Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net> > > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net> > > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > > <mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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