Am 11.09.2014 um 15:02 schrieb Andreas Färber: > Hi, Hi Andreas, > > Am 09.09.2014 um 13:49 schrieb Josua Mayer: >> Am 09.09.2014 12:07, schrieb christophe: >>> To install, what is the procedure ? Copy a dowloaded iso on an usb key >>> and boot and install like on classic pc ? >> On arm, you do a lot manually. build kernel, perform some magic, like >> signing or checksum adding if required by the specific device in use. >> Then you copy a filesystem image of an already installed OS on your >> memory, e.g. sdcard and hope it will boot. > > Josua, you're making this sound worse than it is. You can actually > download the root filesystem from the openSUSE website, you don't have > to take it from another installation. You are right. it is better as it sounds. What I expressed here was mainly my mood about locked bootloaders(they can and are beeing worked around) and graphics drivers. Those suse tarballs exist and make for a good starting point.
> For some devices you can just download an SD card image and boot it. So > far there's a few netbooks, like AC100 and Chromebooks, known working in > addition to development boards, but no tablet. Doesn't mean it's > impossible, just that no one has both done and contributed it back yet. > If you search the Web you will also find blog posts of people trying to > run openSUSE on phones, but only rarely they document that in our Wiki > or actually update our JeOS packages for others to reuse. > > One issue I see is whether you can attach an external keyboard to the > tablet device for debugging before X11 is up. Assuming you do get that > far. Usually they don't have accessible serial ports for debugging the > bootloader. > > Another thing to check is whether the U-Boot bootloader has support for > the device, otherwise the boot process will require some more manual > fiddling. A few Allwinner based tablets are upstreamed, for instance. > > But that's not specific to openSUSE, obviously. You should search sites > like linux-sunxi.org, linux-exynos.org, linux-rockchip.org, etc. for > info on the support status of and how-tos for Linux on specific tablets, > and then as a rule of thumb, if you can boot any self-compiled 3.x Linux > kernel on it, you will be able to boot openSUSE as well. > >>> Will there be all the same packages than on x86 opensuse ? Like >>> packman, google-earth, etc...? > > x86 openSUSE does not ship all those proprietary software either... > > Statically built ARMv7-A "hardfp" binaries should just work; if you have > sources, you can build packages in OBS just like for x86. I haven't seen > a single binary arm rpm download yet, but then again I haven't searched > for any either. > >>> How is the support ? >> Its do-it-yourself as far as I know, though some devices are beeing >> cared for by opensuse staff. > > We're not openSUSE "staff", and there is no commercial "support" for > openSUSE from SUSE. Okay, it is the most amazing of volunteers that take care of boards such as beaglebones, let me say thank you about the black one, I am happily using it! > Some ISVs may be contracted for supporting a > specific commercial project beyond the openSUSE maintenance cycle. Most > work on ARMv7 is volunteer work by people, SUSE or not, with those > boards/devices though. Thus testers are always welcome here, especially > with 13.2 coming up (cf. "JeOS image status" thread). > > Cheers, > Andreas > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] To contact the owner, e-mail: [email protected]
