Hi Tobias,

Thanks for looking into that.

adding opensuse-arm mailinglist, that's where further discussion should take 
place.

Comments below.

On 25/01/2019 20:54, admins wrote:
> 
> On 25.01.19 19:59, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
>> On jeudi, 24 janvier 2019 11.53:34 h CET Axel Braun wrote:
>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Januar 2019 um 08:53 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Matthias Brugger" <[email protected]>
>>>> An: "Basil Chupin" <[email protected]>, opensuse-project
>>>> <[email protected]> Cc: "nicolas saenz julienne"
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [opensuse-project] No info. re Leap 15.1 in Wikipedia
>>>>
>>>> I think we read about people complaining on the performance of openSUSE
>>>> this week already. I haven't done any measurements but heard that on
>>>> Raspberry Pi 3, Debian is significantly faster in booting then openSUSE.
>>> Raspi are heavily depending on the kind of 'hard disk' you are using,
>>> whether it is a SD card (connected via USB2) or an internal SSD Here is the
>>> result of a Raspi using a Leap 15 LXQT image:
>>>
>>> /home/test # systemd-analyze blame
>>>      1min 30.071s display-manager.service
>>>      1min 18.481s backup-rpmdb.service
>>>           14.815s ca-certificates.service
>>>           13.788s postfix.service
>>>           12.885s btrfsmaintenance-refresh.service
>>>           11.001s apparmor.service
>>>           10.121s logrotate.service
>>>            9.277s backup-sysconfig.service
>>>            7.925s ModemManager.service
>>>            7.755s lvm2-monitor.service
>>>            5.889s NetworkManager.service
>>>            5.086s postgresql.service
>>>            4.790s initrd-switch-root.service
>>>            3.074s systemd-journal-flush.service
>>>            2.868s nscd.service
>>>            2.721s kbdsettings.service
>>>            2.672s sshd.service
>>>            2.316s ntpd.service
>>>            2.191s avahi-daemon.service
>>>            2.153s systemd-udevd.service
>>>            1.967s polkit.service
>>>            1.959s [email protected]
>>>            1.299s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
>>>            1.171s systemd-remount-fs.service
>>>            1.095s sys-kernel-debug.mount
>>>             943ms systemd-logind.service
>>>             920ms upower.service
>>>             803ms wpa_supplicant.service
>>>             789ms dev-mqueue.mount
>>>             736ms dev-hugepages.mount
>>>             715ms boot-efi.mount
>>>             598ms udisks2.service
>>>             493ms systemd-journald.service
>>>             482ms initrd-parse-etc.service
>>>             440ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
>>>             436ms systemd-modules-load.service
>>>             435ms auditd.service
>>>             403ms dracut-cmdline.service
>>>             348ms systemd-random-seed.service
>>>             251ms initrd-cleanup.service
>>>             250ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
>>>             247ms systemd-sysctl.service
>>>             210ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
>>>             207ms
>>> dev-disk-by\x2duuid-d90960ec\x2df373\x2d472d\x2d8b3f\x2d27a48d232d7a.swap
>>> 193ms systemd-fsck-root.service
>>>             184ms plymouth-switch-root.service
>>>             170ms sysroot.mount
>>>             166ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
>>>             159ms systemd-user-sessions.service
>>>             151ms kmod-static-nodes.service
>>>             112ms systemd-rfkill.service
>>>              98ms plymouth-quit.service
>>>              97ms plymouth-read-write.service
>>>              85ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
>>>              76ms rtkit-daemon.service
>>>              60ms dracut-shutdown.service
>>>              51ms check-battery.service
>>>              51ms systemd-update-utmp.service
>>>              21ms initrd-udevadm-cleanup-db.service
>>>              18ms sys-kernel-config.mount
>>>              16ms plymouth-quit-wait.service
>>>
>>> Quite strange, btrfsmaintenance and lvm2-monitor enabled, although both are
>>> not used. Clearly most time is burned on display-manager and backup of the
>>> rpm-db (could this not be moved to a systemd-timer triggered event at a
>>> later point in time?)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Axel
>> Most of the service you see there aren't they systemd timers that run because
>> it was not running during their normal schedule.
>> Did you try to reboot half an hour after this boot how it behaves ?
>>
>> Ahrrr tests :-)
>>
> 
> I can confirm that the openSUSE boot times on a Raspi 3 are horrendous for
> several reasons. I tested and tweaked the unstable tumbleweed images, so take 
> it
> with precaution, Leap might behave different:
> 
> * It takes quite some time until even grub2 is loaded (u-boot uefi chainload),
> but it brings a full grub2 with options to load different kernels or even
> distributions. (So for me this is worth the wait)
> 

With which u-boot did you test? I think there were some changes to the
distroboot scripts which might add more device probing before we actually find
and run the grub binary.

> * It takes quite along time until the handover (uboot, uefi -> kernel) is 
> done:
> 
> + u-boot slow at reading the actual files (kernel+initrd)
> 

You mean reading the grub binary. Grub is in charge to load kernel+initrd.

> + a not compressed kernel image (~24MB uncompressed vs ~8MB compressed)
> 
> + a initrd which ships (even after first installation and "mkinitrd") several
> kiwi components
> 

Which components do you refer to?

> * Always triggered backup-*.timer(s) and mandb-timer
> 
> 
> So to cut boot times idid several things:
> 
> * remove all kiwi packages -> smaller initrd file
> 
> * disable the above mentioned triggers -> this might not be applicable on a
> intended stable system
> 
> * create and use a kernel with a compressed instead of an uncompressed kernel
> image [1].
> 

I'm not sure if we should add this to the kernel build infrastructure, as it is
a RPi3 thing. Thoughts?

> 
> With all this done boot times on my raspi 3 from a slow SD card were cut by
> around a half (to multi-user console login screen).
> 
> 
> [1]: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:tobijk:kernel/kernel-default
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Tobias
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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