Hi, On Freitag, 17. August 2007, Nikolay Derkach wrote: > [...] > > > But for some reason (most likely unrelated to susedoc) I get > > > the following when building startup: > > > http://opensuse.homelinux.com/logs/fop-java.txt > > > > Yes, I got the same errors. > > So? Could we overcome it? This error causes fail of startup build.
I know, that's really pitty. As I mentioned in my last mail, it's a combination of FOP's FO issues and some areas in the stylesheets. Unfortunatly, it is not very easy to fix this. In the past I concentrated more on XEP than on FOP, but my plan is to make our stylesheets more compatible with the latter. But, as I said, this is not an easy task and take some time. > PS: are there any plans for substituting agfa-fonts? This package > has been being unmaintained for years. Could we get rid of it? The reason why it is unmaintained is fonts usually don't change very often. So there is not much to do for this package. About the substitution: That's a delicate situation. On one side, it's a "corporate layout" and fonts create a certain look and feel. If you change fonts, you will loose these things. On the other side, it's a purely technical issue. Which fonts would you choose? The problem is, you need a font that has certain features: 1. We need a font that consists of serif, sans serif and monospace typefaces. 2. The fonts must have normal, bold, bold+italic and italic font styles, for each typefaces (serif, sans serif and monospace). 3. The fonts must go beyond the Latin character set, e.g. glyphs for Russian, Polish, Czech, ... 4. The fonts should have a good kerning (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning for details.) 5. The font should contain also some more "exotic" glyphs, like ligatures, arrows, etc. Although you find websites that offers a huge amount of fonts, the quality is really low. There are other fonts under an open source license, like Gentium, Libertine, etc. but I found out these has some problems in other areas. Either they have a limited set of typefaces or contains only normal and italic style. Or you find a really good sans font but it doesn't match aestetically to the monospace font (or vice versa.) In regard of DejaVu these are more suited to be read on screen than on paper. Believe me, choosing the right font is an art. I tried to use open source fonts as much as feasible but it is almost impossible to find good fonts that can be used for *all* languages. Maybe I overlooked one, maybe my citeria was to strict; in this case I am very happy to hear of these mystery fonts. I tried different combinations and in most cases legibility suffered or the character set was too limited. I am not against your idea per se, but we should consider these issues. :) Bye, Tom -- Thomas Schraitle ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX GmbH >o) Documentation Specialist Maxfeldstrasse 5 /\\ 90409 Nuernberg _\_v http://en.opensuse.org/Documentation_Team http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Lessons_for_Lizards --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
