Am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 14:22 schrieb Kenneth Schneider:
> On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 11:40 +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> > Reminds me of the unix-way-of-doing things:
> >
> > we first need a fast, damn-good working command line tool. Then we can
> > start about discussing and implementing GUIs for this command line.
> >
> > ZDM should run on rug, not vice-versa, as an additional feature.
> >
> > I also think, that removing the package manager from YaST is a good idea.
> > yast and yast2 makes a lot of work. With a good commandline tool, there
> > is no need for yast-pm in console mode. It's too much work.
> >
> > Let's make (rug) the best commandline tool, and then give rug two
> > frontend-families:
> > zen-installer for newbies, (please one tool, not intstaller and remover)
> > and zen-updater
> > a new qt/gtk-frontend with full installation source management,
> > selections etc
> >
> > I also like the new user management, so you do not need the root password
> > for package installation.
>
> You must also like MS windows with all of it's virii/worm spreading
> capabilities as that is what you are asking for here. 
Never worked with Windows, so I don't know what you mean ;-)
> What happens when 
> you need to remove someone from being able to update software? I see no
> means of removing them from ZEN.
Then it's a design mistake of ZEN, which has to be corrected.

> Security, security, security, security  -must- always be number one when
> designing software. If people want something to run like "windows" tell
> them to install MS windows. -NOT- requiring the root password when
> installing software opens up a huge hole in security.
You forgot, that installing without the root password is not the default. So 
root/the user has to add a user/himself.  Security vs. usabiltity is a never 
ending theme, but that's not the most important one: Even more important than 
security is _choice_. 

If a home user does not want to type the root-password each time he is 
installing a program, then this is his choice.

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Marcel Hilzinger

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