On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:20 pm, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> Would it be possible/feasible to change the messages presented in
> Software Updater to read "Getting update list..." while fetching the
> info then change to "Parsing medadata..." and finally "Incorporating
> medadata..." before is shows whether there are updates? This would at
> lease show that it is doing something. On slower hardware you cannot
> tell if it has hung or just simply taking an enormous amount of time.

I second the call for better feedback.

A system where people are required to
 "wait a long time, and if it gets ridiculous wait a bit more
 and when they run out of patience, re-boot and try again"
 is only going to get the sort of postings we have seen.

The workers deserve to be congratulated on the progress
 they have made improving performance here.
But servers are always going to get overloaded,
 network connections are going to congest
 people are going to try and run slow old hardware,

They can't be made to wait faithfully
 until update has retrieved and processed
 that much data before getting feedback.

I had to reboot, turn proxy on and put a tail on the squid access log
 ( tail -f /var/log/squid/access.log ) to re-assure myself
 that anything useful was happening for 10 or 15 minutes. (it was)

We need AT LEAST per step - per repository messages,
 preferably per package - per packet/KB arrived.

Perhaps for the debug versions,
 a walking spinning cursor 1/8 turn per packet
 leaving one dot per package scanned.
..../      ....-      ....\      ....|      ...../

Eventually, since initialisation is a significant phase
 we need 3 progress bars like the YaST update ones.
From the bottom up:

        progress overall        (often too slow moving to indicate a hang)
        progress per repository (with the name)
        progress per packet  (with the name)

It could be done like the installer, Joe sixpack can smile with Geeko
 or swap to the  "Details"  tab to see what's actually happening.

-- 
Michael James                         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Administrator                    voice:  02 6246 5040
CSIRO Bioinformatics Facility             fax:  02 6246 5166

PS: Poking around YaST trying to get something to happen
         I clicked on  "Setup automatic update".
        Got a blank screen and an  "OK"  button.
        What was that all about?

PPS:   Where does the updater get and store the preferred mirror?
        Seems to be hidden info, my woes weren't helped
         by the updater choosing to connect me to rikken uni in Japan.
        That's a slow pipe from Australia, mirrors.kernel.org is better.

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