On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 06:34:15PM +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
> On Sunday 05 November 2006 18:21, Christian Boltz wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 5. November 2006 13:53 schrieb Anders Johansson:
> > > On Sunday 05 November 2006 13:48, Andreas Hanke wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > > This is not so simple to decide. Zen-Installer supports the zmd
> > > > permissions system so that people can use it without the root
> > > > password on configured systems. This is a plus of Zen-Installer.
> > >
> > > This is something that should be added to opensuse-installer.
> >
> > NooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOO!
> >
> > I consider the ZMD permission system broken by design
> > (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215619)
> > and it would be fatal to add the same broken thing to
> > opensuse-installer/updater.
> >
> > If you _really_ like the zmd permission system, please continue using
> > zen-installer ;-)
> 
> I like the fact that root can delegate some administrative tasks like 
> software 
> management to other administrators without their having to get the root 
> password
> 
> That bug report is slightly strange, since it seems to say "if root does 
> everything, the system is safe" but role based administration has long been 
> deemed better by many
> 
> If I, a hypothetical malicious hacker, gain access to your account, and you 
> do 
> stuff with sudo or su, you're already lost, since if I'm logged in to your 
> account, I can sniff your keyboard
> 
> No security system is perfect, and if a cracker gains local access, you are 
> in 
> trouble. But if you can't trust the people you assign as admins, you have 
> bigger problems than computer security

Actually I would really delegate this to su wrappers, like sudo or kdesu
instead of introducing yet another security model.

Ciao, Marcus
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