On Sunday 20 May 2007 12:40, Sid Boyce wrote:
> Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> > hi all !
> >
> > I wrote an article about different types of Virtualization here:
> > http://www.violtan.com/ae/virtualization.html
> >
> > This article describes 4 stages of Virtualization: Emulation, Full
> > Virtualization, Para-Virtualization and OS-level Virtualization.
> >
> > I believe that openSUSE must excel at all types of Virtualization.
>
> Agreed, I've played with some of them. I've always found the concept
> interesting and very useful in the enterprise ever since we at Amdahl
> went down that road with full purpose back in the 1980's and stole a
> decent temporary advantage over IBM. VM was waning and IBM didn't see a
> future for Virtualization, they certainly never looked at doing it in
> hardware and it was several years before PR/SM saw the light of day.
>
> > openSUSE did some progress in terms of Virtualization: namely we
> > consider integrating VirtualBox into openSUSE.
>
> Just yesterday I tried building Virtualbox on x86_64, only to be greeted
> with the message that's it's not likely to work on 64-bit any time soon,
> so that is one serious drawback.
> I also thought that VMWare had gone opensource, I tested a number of
> their 6.0 Workstation Betas, now I find the 6.0 release is for purchase
> only, so I'll leave that for the Corporates with deep pockets.
>
> > Until now openSUSE is too focused on Xen. Xen-centric approach is bad.
> > We need a wide array of technologies in openSUSE. Qemu and DOSbox
> > emulators are fortunately already included. openSUSE 10.3 kernel also
> > support USB-FS (allows for using USB in guest VMs) , KVM
> > (Qemu-accelerator) and VMI (kernel paravirtualization) each of these
> > technologies improve Virtualization further.
>
> I only recently got a box capable of running KVM, modules kvm, kvm_amd
> and kqemu are loaded, but I haven't gone beyond that so far.

I also find the concept of virtualisation interesting in fact it was the 
justification for my getting a new box. I have 10.3 Alpha 4 installed so the 
kvm modules are there and I have read Alexey's article above but I haven't 
worked out how to go beyond that so far :-)

> > Who are the people responsible for virtualization efforts in openSUSE ?
>
> Good question, very little has been seen on the list and it has all been
> about Xen. Hopefully you have smoked a healthy discussion out into the
> open.

I hope so too.
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